3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

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3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby amessenger4god on Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:36 pm

I know I've mentioned this before, but I think this is a worthwhile thread on its own. I believe it may be possible that the Center of Temple Studies in Mitzpe Yericho is, in fact, the Third Temple itself.

I have four reasons for thinking this a possibility:

1.) In the video of its construction here http://www.newsofhisland.com/blog/?p=4499, a Rabbi at the construction site says, and I quote, "it will be an exact replica of the temple." Another Rabbi says, I quote, "it is the beginning of the work of the third temple, construction for the third temple."

2.) Revelation 11:1-2, which discusses the third temple has usually been interpreted as meaning "the court outside the sanctuary leave out", but this appears to be an NIV translation. The Greek and the King James seems to say "the court WITHOUT the sanctuary leave out". In other words, it may be plainly saying that the temple will not be built on the temple mount at all.

"And there was given to me a reed like to a rod, and the messenger stood, saying, `Rise, and measure the sanctuary of God, and the altar, and those worshipping in it;

and the court that is without the sanctuary leave out, and thou mayest not measure it, because it was given to the nations, and the holy city they shall tread down forty-two months;"
- Revelation 11:1-2, YLT

3.) The timing of its construction seems to fit with the ENP(i) theory.

4.) The temple "replica" will specifically be for training the Levitical priests in performing the sacrifices.



I really think we need to find out more about this, but I'm not sure where to begin. The project is affiliated with the Temple Institute, but this particular project doesn't have its own website (at least that I can find).

One way we can find out more is if someone would be willing to call the Center and ask about it, I found the phone number of the project: 052-3003293

If anyone can call Israel and/or speaks Hebrew, calling and asking about it could be well worth it. I'm pretty sure they speak English, though.

At 3:09 in the video some of the blueprints and architectural plans can be seen, but it is hard to make them out. From what I can see it does look like the real deal. Revelation 11 seems to say the temple mount is given over to the nations, so this would make good sense.
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby Finaldash on Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:04 pm

I too have my suspicions that this may be it.
I am surprise that there has been less media or Any uproar from anyone
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby GodsStudent on Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:37 pm

Is the location of the temple critical to the scriptures concerning it?
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby Just_Betsy on Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:25 pm

2.) Revelation 11:1-2, which discusses the third temple has usually been interpreted as meaning "the court outside the sanctuary leave out", but this appears to be an NIV translation. The Greek and the King James seems to say "the court WITHOUT the sanctuary leave out". In other words, it may be plainly saying that the temple will not be built on the temple mount at all.


In old-fashioned English, "without" often did mean "outside."

Gen. 6:14 Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.

Gen. 9:22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

Gen 19:16 And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.

Those are just a few examples that I found right off. The KJV is full of that usage.
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby amessenger4god on Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:00 pm

You could very well be right, but what is of interest is that I've used Young's Literal Translation. I just think we should at least keep this in mind over the next few months. Its location in the West Bank would make it a prime target for it to be shutdown, especially with President Obama and others now calling for all West Bank settlers to leave.

And consider that, at least to my knowledge, there is no Biblical requirement or prophecy that necessitates the third temple being rebuilt on the temple mount itself. Orthodox Jews favor the temple mount for obvious reasons, and some believe the Holy of Holies must be in the exact spot where it was almost 2000 years ago, but not ALL Orthodox Jews believe this. Many are fighting for it to be built anywhere on the mount, even the north side, so long as it IS rebuilt. That sentiment could justify building elsewhere perhaps.
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby eschologizer on Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:01 am

I find it interesting that the altar the temple institute was building on the 9th of AV that they were intending to build for the temple is being made in the SAME CITY that this exact replica is being created. They must obviously be coordinating their temple preparations and maybe have other ideas up their sleeves about what they intend to use as a temple... idk just speculation.



http://ferrelljenkins.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/worlds-largest-temple-model/
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby Adamantine on Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:08 am

Well an exact replica would be a way to fake out the world and build the Temple so that others would not see it as THE Temple.
Is there any chance the Temple replica can then be reassembled on the mount?



I do know that one of the principles of the Sanhedrin and Temple institute is to act like the stories about Moses walking right out to where the water was up to his nose and then when one is about to drown... then will God split the red Sea.

I heard that principle from a Temple Institute director a few years ago. They may be doing all they can and then expecting God to act.
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby eschologizer on Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:33 am

I have emailed Levi Chazen about many of these issues, such as:

-will they do animal sacrifices
-blueprints
-expected construction completion
-the use of the structure on the temple mount if it becomes available

The original email address for Levi didn't work so I used a different one for questions. Dina Moskowitz responded, saying she will email it to his other account and mark it high priority. I am glad they seem to be very receptive to these questions.
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby sands on Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:00 am

Adamantine wrote:Is there any chance the Temple replica can then be reassembled on the mount?



This is exactly what came to mind...Could they be building it off site and then assemble it on the temple mount ????
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby Adamantine on Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:45 am

If it is an exact replica then it would be also by definition be the exact same size also. Otherwise to be accurate one must state it is a "miniature replica". A replica would I assume be an exact likeness but not necessarily of the same size. We are all loose with our use of language sometimes so I do wonder if it truly an "exact " replica.
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby milo3 on Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:03 am

eschologizer wrote:I find it interesting that the altar the temple institute was building on the 9th of AV that they were intending to build for the temple is being made in the SAME CITY that this exact replica is being created. They must obviously be coordinating their temple preparations and maybe have other ideas up their sleeves about what they intend to use as a temple... idk just speculation.



http://ferrelljenkins.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/worlds-largest-temple-model/


Not to mention that according to your link the author states that the place were the sacrificial altar and the exact temple replica are both being built is in the city of Mitzpe Yericho and is in an area in the wilderness of Judea.

Mitzpe Yericho is in the wilderness of Judea near the Monastery of St. George.


Mathew 24:15-16
15. "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),
16. then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.

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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby eschologizer on Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:57 pm

http://third-temple-academy.blogspot.com/

I really wanted to find more information about this but the whole internet seemd not to be producing new info. Then I found this today. It is unfortunate that there is not more information to be found.

This blogpost does seem to verify that it will be to scale. If you look at the pictures linked to the blog, it shows a posterboard with all of the temple drawings and specifications for this new structure.

Sunday, October 25, 2009
Third Temple Academy
For the first time in the history of the Jewish people, a model Temple school for Kohanim and Levites will break ground here in Mitzpe Yericho. The model, which will be built to scale, will serve to teach the Kohanim and Levites the service which they will need to perform in Jerusalem when the Holy Temple is rebuilt. After 2000 years of exile, how can the Kohanim work and serve in the Temple without knowing how? This unique school will give the Kohanim and Levites first-hand experience where to bring the sacrifices, where to throw the blood, wine, and so on.

The school will start with groundbreaking for the outer altar, a 16 x 16 meter structure with a height of 5 meters and a ramp of an additional 16 meters!


The altar is HUGE!!!!!!!!!

It is unfortunate that this blog only has one entry!!

Nevertheless, I greatly desire to know (as many others have mentioned on this discussion) is whether or not they will be offering sacrifices at this new temple model. I still haven't heard back from Levi Chazen when I asked. Another person I emailed said they would forward my email to him and mark it high priority. I have not heard since.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133801

At the Mitzpe Yericho school, Temple priest hopefuls learn exactly how to conduct the daily Temple service and offer the required sacrifices.


Not to rehash what we already know, but this seems like it could meet our specifications for the third temple, if indeed sacrifices will be offered.

I guess we will have to wait and see.
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby savedbygrace on Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:39 pm

:shock:
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby Finaldash on Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:43 pm

savedbygrace wrote::shock:

I figure that you haven't been here consistently the past couple of months huh?
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby savedbygrace on Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:49 pm

nahh, been trying to find enough work to pay the bills and its getting really difficult. Not much time for reading all the information lately. However, news of a temple usually grabs my attention!
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby SueAnn on Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:07 pm

I have something buzzing inside my brain. Not sure if it is coming from the Holy Spirit or not, so take it with a grain of salt if your Spirit is not touched...

Training holy priests. Very important to do it AWAY from where the actual ceremonies will take place. This is NOT the time/situation for hands-on-training. First practice until perfection is reached, and only then perform the ceremonies/rituals in God's actual Holy Place.

When the Israelites were in the desert their Temple was temporary, basically a fancy tent....it was Holy, for sure, but even so it wasn't as holy as the Ark of The Covenant (actually housed God). The priests-to-be had years and years of practice in that portable school. Generations were trained by the time the actual Temple #1 was built. By the time that Temple was built the priests were experts and much less likely to offend God with normal priest-in-training mistakes.

I don't know if God requires the next Temple to be build in the same location as the first, the second (they may not be the same place) or a completely different location. But if I have to lean in one direction, I'm leaning towards Jerusalem, the center of the world, as far as God is concerned. So either that means that this replica is just for practice, or it means it is only for practice until the time comes for it to be relocated to Jerusalem.


Also,
Mitzpe Yericho


Is this place the city we see in our bibles called Jericho? If so, the biblical significance of them choosing that particular place to build THE Temple or just a PRACTICE Temple? (whichever it might turn out to be)

I keep hearing, "And the walls came tumbling down..."
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وَقَالَ الرَّبُّ لأَبْرَامَ: «اتْرُكْ أَرْضَكَ وَعَشِيرَتَكَ وَبَيْتَ أَبِيكَ وَاذْهَبْ إِلَى الأَرْضِ الَّتِي أُرِيكَ،
فَأَجْعَلَ مِنْكَ أُمَّةً كَبِيرَةً وَأُبَارِكَكَ وَأُعَظِّمَ اسْمَكَ، وَتَكُونَ بَرَكَةً (لِكَثِيرِينَ).
َأُبَارِكُ مُبَارِكِيكَ وَأَلْعَنُ لاعِنِيكَ، وَتَتَبَارَكُ فِيكَ جَمِيعُ أُمَمِ الأَرْضِ »
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Re: 3rd Temple May Now be Under Construction

Postby Finaldash on Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:39 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitzpe_Yeriho
=it means Jericho Lookout.
"The village lies on one of the last cliffs marking the edge of the Judean highlands, and overlooks the Jordan Rift Valley, the Dead Sea, and the ancient city of Jericho whence its name is derived."
This is in the district of Judea and Samaria.

Which reminds me of this verse after the AOD occurs:
Mat.24:15"So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation, spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. 18Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak.
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