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Postby Abiding in His Word on Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:36 pm

EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

November 09, 2009

“The [EU] leaders will try to agree on the two posts at a dinner in the German capital on Monday (9 November) evening, with Swedish Prime Minister Frederik Reinfeld having taken soundings in recent days from his EU peers.”

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Princess of Heaven on Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:47 pm

feels like running around in circles on these jobs :roll:
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby 4givenmuch on Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:49 pm

I know it is unlikely they would give posts to two Brits, but Miliband and Blair- I can see that!
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby emptyd on Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:43 pm

As posted in another thread, Miliband has declined - said he would not accept.
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Wickus on Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:30 am

emptyd wrote:As posted in another thread, Miliband has declined - said he would not accept.


Not surprised. Miliband is not linked to Rec 666 and a confirmed covenant with many for 7 years.

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby 4givenmuch on Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:53 pm

I think anyone who accepts this post is linked to Rec 666 and we would then watch for another 7 year treaty.
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Adamantine on Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:50 pm

4givenmuch wrote:I think anyone who accepts this post is linked to Rec 666 and we would then watch for another 7 year treaty.



I for one would pass the responsibility to the next generation. One seven year observation period is enough for me.
I am not sure I will complain any less than Jonah.
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Wickus on Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:31 am

Adamantine wrote:
4givenmuch wrote:I think anyone who accepts this post is linked to Rec 666 and we would then watch for another 7 year treaty.



I for one would pass the responsibility to the next generation. One seven year observation period is enough for me.
I am not sure I will complain any less than Jonah.


:grin: I have to agree. One CONFIRMED 7 year treaty with a mid term review point implemented by someone linked to 666 in charge of a 10 nation union is enough for one generation. If this is not it, I will be very skeptical about any new treaty. And I can not see it happening very soon.

One thing I know for sure. We are either mislead and interpreting prophecy extremely wrong to see all of this road signs fulfilled before us, or this is IT. And currently the biggest sign for this year is Solana's appointment. If he is not appointed, we will not have an AoD in 2010. If he is, the next big sign will be the AoD.

I am having sleepless nights...
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Finaldash on Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:52 am

Wickus wrote:
Adamantine wrote:
4givenmuch wrote:I think anyone who accepts this post is linked to Rec 666 and we would then watch for another 7 year treaty.



I for one would pass the responsibility to the next generation. One seven year observation period is enough for me.
I am not sure I will complain any less than Jonah.


:grin: I have to agree. One CONFIRMED 7 year treaty with a mid term review point implemented by someone linked to 666 in charge of a 10 nation union is enough for one generation. If this is not it, I will be very skeptical about any new treaty. And I can not see it happening very soon.

One thing I know for sure. We are either mislead and interpreting prophecy extremely wrong to see all of this road signs fulfilled before us, or this is IT. And currently the biggest sign for this year is Solana's appointment. If he is not appointed, we will not have an AoD in 2010. If he is, the next big sign will be the AoD.

I am having sleepless nights...

Having this not be the one would drastically change my future outlook and plans. As of now I'm trying to sell my business. But if this isn't the confirmed covenant as foretold in scripture, I'd rather tough it out in this economy.

But with my family being pushed to the edge, I'd bet that God has led us to this scenario to do what exactly what I'm doing now because we are in the 70th week.

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Hisown on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:26 am

:hugs: for those of us that can't sleep!

Maybe we could start a separate thread in where we can discuss the vast emotional impact this is having on our lives, not only personally but in our families as well.

Even though I've been traveling and made a conscious decision to stay away from anything that remotely looks like we have entered into the " appointed Time" as spoken of by Habakkuk , it follows me wherever I go!

How is it possible on every flight there is somebody that sits next to me that the discussion starts off the same way! :bag:

For this I know, the Word of the Lord is our only source of truth and if He has spoken it, whom can nullify? If Solana is our man there is NONE that will stop it and will come to pass ONLY in the " appointed time" , not a second before.

Forgive me for the derailing but just needed to add, I too will not look at another "potential" covenant ever again, I am so done!

Greece , South- Africa and Israel here we come, Wickus get your hunting gear ready my bro, we ( may ) need some Springbok biltong for comfort :lol: oh btw maybe you can Fed-ex some over just in case we don't make it!
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Wickus on Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:42 am

Greece , South- Africa and Israel here we come, Wickus get your hunting gear ready my bro, we ( may ) need some Springbok biltong for comfort :lol: oh btw maybe you can Fed-ex some over just in case we don't make it!
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Adamantine on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:28 am

Hi: If this is "it" we will all meet in the air soon enough.
If not then yes I am actually considering a trip to Israel. To show you exactly how unsure but concerned I am about it all I have considered a trip to Israel for this upcoming Passover 2010 but have not found the courage! It would be a great place to be if nothing happened but imaging getting to see first hand an attempted sacrifice (or not).
On the other hand I would have no similar fear of visiting the Mayan Pyramids in 2012.
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby emptyd on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:30 am

To those posters in this thread who sound tired, worn out, exhasted...

2 Thessalonians 3:13 wrote: But as for you, brethren, do not grow weary of doing good. (NASB) used by permission

I know I haven't been into this "watching" nearly as long as most of you all, so it is easy for me to say these things. But if JS is not it, we need to continue watching! What better tactic of the evil one than to get those few who are watching to turn a blind eye (like the rest of the church) by wearing them down with false alarms.

Could not our grandparents say this:
They said it was the end when the great depression came - it was not
They said it was the end when World War I came - it was not
They said it was the end when World War II came - it was not
They said it was the end when the UN came - it was not
They said it was the end when the Israel came - it was not
They said it was the end when the 6 Days War came - it was not
Now you want me to look at some Spaniard? I will not.

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Hisown on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:54 am

:hugs2:

Not weary in well doing beloved, just cautious in looking at another " potential covenant" :wink:

Despite loosing all family/ friends and loved ones for the past - 16 years, 7 months, 13 days since being born from above, I will continue to run this race of endurance looking for that glorious prize, no stopping half way amen!

Having this ENP on my heart for the last - 1122 days can take it's toll, even poor ol Daniel fainted at the " prospect" of the things that would transpire in the appointed time, did not even eat the guy was so perplexed!!

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Mrs. B on Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:37 am

EU leaders to discuss top Jobs at Berlin dinner...


I do not know how to say what I am going to try to say....But

I believe we are on schedule......it is just we have accepted some wrong believing in interpertering the scripture...

the 666 set up by Solam is right on schedule.....He I believe is a Forerunner.....He is being used to set up that what is to come......he is not the a/c.....but is setting up the world system....so when the a/c appears it will already be set up...

Just like in the Kingdom of God....there are many believers.....
So satan has many labors working for him......
satan's plan is to take over the world...that is why he tempted Jesus and offered him the world...

this would not have been a temptation to Jesus if satan did not have the power to give the world to Him
this way Jesus would not have to go through the cross....but then he could not have been the Saviour of the world...
so in this end time....it is satan's plan to take over the world....one world system....one world money.....one world goverment.....and we see it all being set up before our very eyes...

I believe the 7 years of cleansing the land in Israel and the seven months to bury the dead is the catillous that will bring it all together...
this will open the door for the a/c to move in and take over...
this will cause the whole world to want to have peace.....at any cost
This is what Jesus warned about when he told the people to get out of Jerusalem....
He said it would be like no other time since the beginning of the world...
This is the Great Tribulation
Matt. 24:21....For then shall be Great Tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, No Nor Ever Shall be....

22....And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved:
But for the Elect's sake those days shall be shortened.......(the elect...The Church's sake)....

All nations will come together and the a/c will take over....one world moneys.....the mark for buying and selling..
controlling the whole world......except the Believers.....we will have to totally put our trust in HIM...JESUS

Jesus came Preaching....THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND......
THIS IS WHAT DANIEL PROPHSIED....The Kingdom of God....we know that when we are born again....We are Translated into the invisable Kingdom of God....we are born again and are living in this world but are not of this world....we are in the invisible kingdom of God....Jesus prayed...Thy Kingdom Come thy Will be done on Earth as in Heaven...
This is God's Plan....The Church....(not man's chruch but the Church....those that are following Jesus not man)
But the devil is trying to stop the Kingdom of God on this earth....
So through deception he is going to try to take over...and evil men are his helpers......
but we know that Jesus will Return...Destroy the Kingdom of the Devil.....and set up His Kingdom for 1000 years...
and we will rule and reign on this earth with Him...

We are in the battle.....
Jesus said...If it were Possible even the Very Elect would be deceived.....
satan is a lier......and the father of liers....
We must seek Truth...Thy Word is Truth
If we hunger and thrist after the Truth....Jesus is the Truth...He will show us the WAY...

We are seeing the Abomination of Desolation being set up.....this is so satan can take over...
not only the world......but also the Church...
False teachers, false leaders, false prophets......Jesus will reveal Truth to us....
We Must Walk in it.....
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth..
The Word and the Holy Spirit Agree...
Jesus is the Word and the Truth....
Don't Give up.....stay True to the Word......Jesus is the Word

Follow Him..

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Hisown on Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:12 am

[quote="Mrs. B"
I believe we are on schedule......it is just we have accepted some wrong believing in interpertering the scripture...



Is this going to turn out into another derailed thread on who the 'he is" is being referred to in Daniel.I pray not, :shock:

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Wickus on Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:46 am

All nations will come together and the a/c will take over....one world moneys.....the mark for buying and selling..
controlling the whole world......except the Believers.....


Mrs. B, the AC will not control the whole world. That is unfortunately one of the misconceptions that has been taught. The real truth is this:

Dan 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south contend with him; and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass through.
Dan 11:41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown; but these shall be delivered out of his hand: Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
Dan 11:42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries; and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
Dan 11:43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt; and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.
Dan 11:44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him; and he shall go forth with great fury to destroy and utterly to sweep away many.
Dan 11:45 And he shall plant the tents of his palace between the sea and the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.


The AC's rule will be full of war. Not everybody will submit to him. He will get power for one hour. Chaos will rule for at least 3 years. Yes, he will control the EU, Israel and parts of the Mediterranean. He may even have control over a weakened USA, but I can not see how the East (Iran, China, Russia, etc.) will submit to an European AC. They are the kings who will stand up to him.

As for the mark of the beast, for the live of it I can not see it implemented worldwide for the next 50 years. It is currently possible in the US and EU and some Mediterranean countries like Israel. In Africa it will only be my country, South Africa that will be able to implement it. For the rest of Africa that technology is just a dream. It is totally third world. So if the mark will be totally world wide, we are years away from fulfillment. I believe that just as John and Daniel could not describe the modern age they saw in their visions, so the "whole world" view they had was limited to the world they knew, the Middle East, East and Europe.

With this I am not shooting down my believe that we might be in the 70th week. There are to many road signs pointing to it. If this is not it, I am already asking the Lord for forgiveness if I never take any 7 year treaty serious again. This time we are living in is not just marked by a 7 year ENP. It is marked with a CONFIRMED COVENANT with many for SEVEN years with a MID TERM review period created by a man at the head of a TEN NATION confederation who is in his current posts with two documents numbered SIX SIX SIX that gives him his power. Only in this statements there are six road signs confirming that we are not watching a hoax. And everything depends on if this man will get the top post in the EU or retire.

Now the odds of 6 prophecy's lining up at this point in time and all 6 linking to one man is astronomical! It must be billions - 1.
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby emptyd on Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:49 am

Hisown wrote:Is this going to turn out into another derailed thread on who the 'he is" is being referred to in Daniel.I pray not, :shock:p

I promise not to. :grin:

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Mrs. B on Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:05 pm

EU Leaders to discuss top Jobs at Berlin Dinner...


This.... what is coming will effect the whole world....

Jesus said....
For then shall be Great Tribulation, such as Was NOT Since the Beginning of the World to this time,
No, Nor Ever shall be....

And Except those days should be shortened...there should no flesh be saved:
But for the elect's sake...those days shall be shortened....


He that has spiritual ears....let him hear...

Dan. 8:11.....Then I Heard One Saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake...
HOW long shall be the vision concerning the Daily Sacrifice,
and the Transgression of Desolation
to give both the Sanctuary and the Host to be Trodden under foot?


14.....And he said unto me...
Unto Two Thousand and three hundred days;
then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.....


2300 days is a little less then 7 years...

Jesus said....for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened....

he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease


In the MIdst of the week....the 2300 days....He Jesus shall confirm the covenant with many for one week...but in the midst of the week...he shall cut it short...
.....
WHY?
and for the Overspreading of Abominations.......He Jesus shall make it desolate
Even until the consummation....(a marriage is consummated) This could be....
Rev. 12:6....And the woman fled into the wilderness...where she hath a place prepared of God...
that they should feed (Nourish) her 1260 days....
and there was war in heaven....Michael and his angels fought against the dragon:
and the dragon fought and his angels.....

and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate...
The vials of the Wrath of God are poured out on the Wicked....which is the last 3 years or 3 1/2 years

The Witnesses give their Testimoney for 1260 days
Then they are killed then on the 3rd day are raised...
And they heard a Great Voice from heaven saying unto them...
COME UP Hither...And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud;
and their enemies beheld them...

Rev. 11:15....And the Seventh Angel Sounded....

Rev. 10:7....But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel,
when he shall begin to sound,
the Mystsery of God should be Finished,
as he hath declared to his servants the prophets..


Rev. 12:6....And the woman fled into the wilderness...
where she had a place prepared of God,
that they should feed her there
a thousand two hundred and threescore days....1260

The two witness testify for 1260 days...
The woman fled into the wilderness for...1260 days

Then the viols of the wrath of God are poured out on the Wicked...

This is the 70 week....the last seven years.....2300 days....

Jesus said....Pray that ye be worthy to escape that which is coming upon the world...
The woman is nourished or feed for 1260 days.....during the two Witnesses are giving their testimoney to the World...
God reaching out to save those who will hear and believe....

Please read this....with an open heart and mind....and with prayer

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby jgilberAZ on Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:17 pm

Mrs. B ...


Where do you see us currently in relation to the 70th week?

Just prior to ... in the midst ... or, what?


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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Wickus on Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:37 pm

Hisown wrote:[quote="Mrs. B"
I believe we are on schedule......it is just we have accepted some wrong believing in interpertering the scripture...



Is this going to turn out into another derailed thread on who the 'he is" is being referred to in Daniel.I pray not, :shock:

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby GodsStudent on Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:41 pm

Mrs. B: Thank you. I appreciate your sharing comments and scriptures and at the risk of being the controversial, my spirit is continuous in the nudging that we are to soon see war in Israel and a strengthened covenant to follow.

All of me wants to "get on with it" and for the ENP1 to bring to fruition the AOD and then, shortly thereafter, the sincerely desired return of Christ, but certain scriptures, and my own spirit, tell me that we have a little longer to go.

Mrs. B, would you please address, here, or in a new thread, Israel dwelling safely in unwalled villages, the yet unbuilt temple, the sacrifices, and any other scriptures that may fit with an objective look at what other things we need to continue to look for in the here and now?
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby BryanB on Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:52 pm

I agree that there seems to be too many road signs for this NOT to be the 70th week.

If Solana is NOT appointed to the FM post now, I think he could be appointed anytime between now and the AoD and replace whomever does get appointed.

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby nonymouse on Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:01 pm

Welcome, Bryan.
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby milo3 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:27 pm

Welcome Bryan and I agree with you.

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Adamantine on Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:31 pm

Next week November 17 I will be hearing a presentation by Rabbi Chaim Richman
Director of the Temple Institute, Israel

The title of his talk is "Discussing the Prophetic Future of Israel"

Does anyone have any interesting questions I should attempt to put to him?


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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby burien1 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:10 pm

:welcome: to the FP family, BryanB ! :hugs:
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby learningeachday on Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:22 pm

WELCOME, BRIANB! There's no sneaking in and hiding from us here! :sofa: :wink:

Adamantine wrote:Next week November 17 I will be hearing a presentation by Rabbi Chaim Richman
Director of the Temple Institute, Israel

The title of his talk is "Discussing the Prophetic Future of Israel"

Does anyone have any interesting questions I should attempt to put to him?


How interesting, Adamantine! Well, I guess I do have one... about their temple. Do they, prophetically speaking, have to have a temple in place for Messiah to come? (You probably know the answer to this one, don't you? :wink: Just humor me! :mrgreen: )
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby BryanB on Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:44 pm

Thank you for the welcome.

I've been following this site since 2004 (I think). I got to meet Herb in Stockton, CA in 2006. It was an honor.

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Hisown on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:03 pm

emptyd wrote:
Hisown wrote:Is this going to turn out into another derailed thread on who the 'he is" is being referred to in Daniel.I pray not, :shock:p

I promise not to. :grin:

emptyd




Whew........ :hugs:

Praise God for you!


Welcome Bryan!! :blessyou: we look forward to your sharing!

Way exciting times, can't sit still :banana:

Received a very special mail from a pre trib pastor today that is asking for us to share more....this is the same man that refused to hear this back in 2007... :mrgreen:
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Mr Baldy on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:27 pm

:welcome: BryanB!

BryanB wrote:I agree that there seems to be too many road signs for this NOT to be the 70th week.

If Solana is NOT appointed to the FM post now, I think he could be appointed anytime between now and the AoD and replace whomever does get appointed.

Bryan


I would like to respectfully disagree with your aforementioned statement.

In reading Daniel 9:27:

"And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate." NASB

Daniel 9:27 states that the antichrist will make a "firm covenant with the many for one week". This certainly appears to me that it will be a continuous "confirming" or "confirmation" process for the entire 7 years. So if Solana is not "given power to continue" (Revelation 13:5) then the whole ENP(I) theory would be wrong; as Daniel 9:27 appears to indicate that there would be no "stoppage" and then restarting, at a later point during the "confirmation" process of the covenant with the many.

BryanB wrote:I agree that there seems to be too many road signs for this NOT to be the 70th week.


I wholeheartedly agree with this statement! I also fear that many who are rejecting these very obvious signs may not be ready for Christ to return. (I know that this is a very sad statement to make, but I do believe it to be true).

If the ENP(I) theory turns out to be wrong, I won't just give up and pass it on to the next generation. I will continue to watch, and remain FAITHFUL. I will continue to look at, and carefully view any other covenant with many, which confirms or strengthens a previous covenant for 7 years, headed by a leader of the Revived Roman Empire, and is associated with the number 666. What are the odds of all of this ever happening again? Even if by chance that this turns out not to be it, never the less I will continue with my Faith in Christ.
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby amessenger4god on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:28 pm

Adamantine, I SERIOUSLY have a question for you to ask, and if you are really getting the opportunity to ask a question of a Temple Institute guy THIS WOULD BE PERFECT.

If you get the chance, please, please, please ask him about the Temple School in Mitzpe Yericho. I have literally spent hours trying to find out more than what was revealed in the few articles and video, but I can't find anything. One Rabbi called it, literally an "exact replica" of the temple, and if this is the case, I think we have a potential third temple already under construction in the West Bank. I know that the Temple Institute is involved, and so I figure this fellow should know something. Dimensions or anything. Will it have walls, where in the town is it (north, south, east, or west), just anything you can ask him would be awesome.

What a great opportunity,
Thank You brother :hugs2:
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby 4givenmuch on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:51 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... ister.html

According to this article, Britain is just trying to secure representation in the new EU. If Blair doesn't fly, they will promote Miliband.
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby milo3 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:54 pm

4givenmuch wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/6294663/David-Miliband-lined-up-as-EU-foreign-minister.html

According to this article, Britain is just trying to secure representation in the new EU. If Blair doesn't fly, they will promote Miliband.


Hey 4givenmuch,

I have also not completely closed the book on Miliband, but I think that article is a month old, so it would not be the most current news.

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby milo3 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:59 pm

This appears to be the most current, so maybe the Miliband discussion is closed?

David Miliband rules himself out as EU foreign minister

David Miliband, the Foreign Secretary, has publicly ruled himself out of the running to be the European Union's new foreign minister.

Mr Miliband said he wanted to "stay and fight" the general election.

Mr Miliband has been consistently tipped, despite repeated insistence he was not a candidate, to take the new post of High Representative created by the Lisbon Treaty.

European leaders will gather next week to make that appointment and name the European Council's first president.

But Mr Miliband repeated his rejection of the post today, saying: "I came into politics to serve the British people in Britain."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/6546525/David-Miliband-rules-himself-out-as-EU-foreign-minister.html

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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Adamantine on Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:52 am

The poet Matthew Arnold once observed that "for the creation of a masterpiece two powers must concur. The power of the moment...

“Sounds like the Roman Empire
Romano,” remarked Mr. Bush
December 2003, Economist : The drive for “European Unity” has deep historical origins. Indeed they do stretch back to the dissolution of the Roman Empire”

EU Commission President Barroso calls EU "the worlds’ first non- imperial empire “ July ,2007 TELEGRAPH UK

EU Observer
Libya's Muammar Gaddafi – who has called it "another Roman empire" and spoken of its "imperialist design" –July 2008

Czech President Vaclav Klaus announced on his Webpage that he has signed the European Union’s Lisbon Treaty,
“I signed the Lisbon Treaty at 3 p.m.”

Erdogan Turkish Prime Minister calls for a NEW WORLD ORDER for sustainable peace October 2009

New World Order Emerging at G20 meeting October 2009

“Pope Benedict on Tuesday called for a ‘world political authority
July 2009



The poet Matthew Arnold once observed that "for the creation of a masterpiece two powers must concur. The power of the moment and the power of the man...

Javier Solana

* Born in Madrid on 14 July 1942
* Married to Concepción Giménez - two children
* Doctorate in physics - Fulbright scholar at several American universities
* Professor of solid-state physics at Madrid Complutense University
o author of over thirty publications in the field
* Member of the Spanish Chapter of the Club of Rome
* Joined the Spanish Socialist Party in 1964
* Member of Parliament since 1977
* Spanish Cabinet Minister from 1982 to 1995 without interruption:
o December 1982 - July 1988: Minister for Culture; simultaneously, acted as Government Spokesman from July 1985 to July 1988
o July 1988 - July 1992: Minister for Education and Science
o July 1992 - December 1995: Minister for Foreign Affairs
* December 1995 - October 1999: Secretary General of NATO
* Since 18 October 1999: Secretary-General of the Council of the European Union / High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy
* Since 25 November 1999, Secretary-General of Western European Union (WEU)
* Since 12 July 2004, Head of the European Defence Agency (EDA)
Charlemagne Prize Distinguished services European unification, 2007
The Belgium Carnegie Wateler peace prize, 2006
Vision for Europe Award, 2003
British The Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George. "Token of a better age". Its patron saints, are St. Michael the Archangel and St. George. primary symbol is St Michael trampling over Satan. 'Statesman of the Year Award' Luxembourg East West Institute, 2003 Spanish Grand Cross of Isabel the Catholic
Manfred Wörner Medal from the German Defense Ministry
Golden Linden Medal Czech Defense Ministry
USA Department of Defense Medal for Distinguished Public Service
Peace through Dialogue Munich Security Conference, German/European
Ireland Juris Doctor Dublin University

There is no one in a better position to discuss the topic of Europe in the World.
Indeed one might say he is the living embodiment of that title.
Stephen Walt
Kennedy School of Government Harvard University September 2009

“Javier is I think a personal incarnation
of the world’s most effective institution
of global governance, namely himself.“

CARLOS PASCUAL
Managing Global Insecurity Project
THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION
Washington, D.C. November 20, 2008


The poet Matthew Arnold once observed that "for the creation of a masterpiece two powers must concur.

The power of the moment


The potential policy footprints for .. the high representative are, simply, enormous, far beyond the scope of any other single EU figure or agency at the moment. It is precisely these kinds of institutional changes that, in the long run, change the world." Foreign Policy November 2009

The next step for European integration requires political energy. That energy is not there now. It won’t come from within, it could come from without.” It will take a deep crisis. (for Europe to find its unified voice on the world stage) Leaders learn through crisis and people only understand when they experience tragedy.” Vision Novemebr 2009
 

The poet Matthew Arnold once observed that "for the creation of a masterpiece two powers must concur. The power of the moment and the power of the man. " the power of this man was more than equal to the power of the moment"
Defense Secretary William Cohen Awarding to Javier Solana the Highest civilian Award of the United States 1999

Somerset Maugham once said that "the secret of Spain's greatness lay not in its culture but in the leaders that it produces. The preeminence in Spain," he wrote, "is in its preeminence of character." He said, "In Spain it's the men that are the poems, the pictures, the buildings and the philosophies. The Spanish excel in what is greater than art in man."
Secretary of Defense referring to Javier Solana at same ceremony September 1999
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Looking4acity on Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:40 pm

Adamantine wrote:Next week November 17 I will be hearing a presentation by Rabbi Chaim Richman
Director of the Temple Institute, Israel

The title of his talk is "Discussing the Prophetic Future of Israel"

Does anyone have any interesting questions I should attempt to put to him?


:wavewelcome: BryanB


Yeah.

Ask him if he's aware of what Daniel says about the "little horn of 10 kings" and that Javier Solana fits this (thus far)as the Secretary-General of the Western European Union.
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby 4givenmuch on Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:10 pm

http://euobserver.com/9/28985

Apparently some of the countries don't care for the "Soviet Style" secrecy . . . more names in the hat.
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby Mttw633 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:04 am

Italian MP Denounces Bilderberg Influence During European Parliament Meeting


this guy has guts!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gZ7gDBs ... r_embedded
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby GodsStudent on Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:23 am

Lord Jesus, please bless this man by putting a hedge of pretection around him, and if he is not saved, please prick his heart! AMEN!!!
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Re: EU leaders to discuss top jobs at Berlin dinner

Postby foytik on Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:59 pm

Here is a link about the dinner tomorrow night. It is an extra informal meeting.
http://www.se2009.eu/en/meetings_news/2009/11/19/extra_informal_summit
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