Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

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Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby Adamantine on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:11 pm

http://blogs.ft.com/brusselsblog/2009/1 ... -nonsense/
In particular, Reinfeldt made the important point to me that picking the foreign policy high representative and picking the first full-time president are not the same thing. The presidency is a job wholly in the gift of the EU’s 27 national leaders, but the foreign policy position is not.
On the contrary, because its holder will serve as a European Commission vice-president, he or she must be acceptable to Commission president José Manuel Barroso and to the European Parliament. Indeed, the parliament will conduct hearings soon into Barroso’s new Commission team, and it could in theory cause enough trouble to force the withdrawal of the foreign policy nominee.


http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/im ... 66383.aspx
The Parliament had intended to start hearings... on 26 November so that the Parliament could vote in plenary on approving the whole team in December. But the additional delay caused by a later-than-expected summit, means that the Parliament is likely to start hearings only in January... the target was 20 January... therefore (the next commission) may not take office before February.

http://news.penki.lt/news.aspx?Lang=EN& ... eID=217466
German Green MEP Rebecca Harms: "We need to agree that we want strong men and women in the top positions of the EU. Mr Reinfeldt, unfortunately I'm not able to congratulate you because there is as yet no sign of any strong men and women coming forward."

http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/im ... 66394.aspx
The agreement reached two weeks ago that the socialists would come up with a candidate for the high representative while the centre-right would take the post of president of the European Council seemed, on the face of it, to strengthen Miliband's chances. Reinfeldt could balance Miliband, someone who is nominally a socialist, from one of the larger member states, against a candidate from the centre-right from one of the smaller member states – such as Jan Peter Balkenende, Herman Van Rompuy or Wolfgang Schüssel.
But Miliband, at least for the moment, prefers to remain in domestic British politics.


http://www.theparliament.com/no_cache/l ... bby-deals/
Debate on new EU jobs 'descended into shabby deals'

http://www.isria.com/pages/11_November_2009_83.php
The author reports that the two top candidates for the position are British Foreign Secretary David Miliband, and former Italian Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Massimo De'alma, and adds: "Jerusalem is saying that these two candidates from the ranks of the European Left, can be labeled as 'problematic,' as far as Israel is concerned. Miliband's Jewish background is liable, it is feared here, to push him, incongruously, to stringent and critical stances, and the Italian candidate, identified as being pro-Arab, has never attempted to hide his positions.




MY COMMENT
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( to add to the cornucopia of nonsense)
1) So even if one person gets the nod the parliament could change it all
as late as February 2010
2) So far there are no strongmen or women coming forward and current contenders for the position are problematic (even for Israel)
3) The HRCFSP is to be a socialist
4) Debate on new EU jobs has 'descended into shabby deals'
3) Solana is a Socialist and a strong man and the socialists are a major power in the parliament capable of shabby deals
4) At least we have some real guess as to who will emerge victorious even if others do not.
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Re: Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby Justasheep on Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:42 am

Thanks for doing all this work on pulling relevant comments from so many EU news sources to help readers here see what's happening in the process to choose the leaders at the EU. I hope we aren't kept in suspense by a new EU foreign minister appointment, but I will not be convinced that Mr. Solana has left the building prophetically speaking until we get through next spring without his return (unless he is given power to continue next week).
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Re: Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby Wickus on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:55 pm

I am going into hiding for a month or two, :sofa: This is dragging on way too long! The suspense is killing me.
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Re: Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby Adamantine on Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:26 pm

Yes I agree.
In 2005 at lunch with a friend with whom I had discussed prophecy for years we said to each other that it appeared as though nothing prophetic was happening very fast and that we would say it would be maybe 20 years before things came together.
Then we discovered the the WEU/ENP/rec 666.
I am now totally exhausted "prophetically". So if you hear that I am recuperating in a rest home on oxygen and pills weaving baskets and making ceramic salt and pepper shakers please stop by and say hi and sit and smile at me for a spell. :wink:
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Re: Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby Wickus on Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:50 pm

:laugh: And if I am in a room next to yours, please be gentle with me.

Looks like we have the same track record. I have been watching on and off since about '85 or '86 but the BIG change came in 2005. From there on everything seems to be snowballing. I am really prophetically tired. I guess what keeps me going is these words:

Isa 40:31 but they who wait for the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings like eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not faint.
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Re: Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby sands on Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:30 pm

Daniel 7: "25And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. "


Yes folks...Indeed the Word is Truth....Be strong.
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Re: Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby Adamantine on Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:51 am

Image


Simply to show Solana does not look too old to serve.
May we all be so fit at age 67.

However he surely dyes his hair as does Borroso not seen in this picture which gets apparently cropped in the process.
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Re: Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby mrgravyard49 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:16 am

If the A/C is to be like Christ then he he not also look like Christ or at least be near his age of 33?
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Re: Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby Adamantine on Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:33 am

Under that type of thinking he would need to be Jewish, a descendant of David,age 30, maybe from Israel,possibly born in Bethlehem with a sojourn in Egypt.
Some have hypothesized as much. I entirely disagree. It would take vast amounts of effort to argue it fully and I am not up to it.
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Re: Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby Wickus on Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:34 am

mrgravyard49 wrote:If the A/C is to be like Christ then he he not also look like Christ or at least be near his age of 33?


Hi mrgravyard49

Two questions for you:

1) Were is it written that the AC must be like Christ?
2) What did Christ look like?

Your question is linked by one of the biggest misconceptions about the AC. Anti means opposite. That means the AC will be the opposite of Christ. So if Christ was 33 when he was crucified, then we can assume the AC will be about 66 when in power. If my assumption is correct (and it is only an assumption) then Solana's age fit the AC profile.

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Re: Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby Hisown on Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:48 am

Boetie jy maak my lag!!!!! :laugh:

Sorry guys the tension is thick in the house , I so needed that :wink:

Much needed comic relief.

Mr you know who is looking pretty spiffy I might add- not my cup of tea that's fer sure-to old-and anyways he's the type of guy that get's under a persons skin! - eeeewww :bag:
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Re: Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby A_Watchman on Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:30 pm

Wickus,

You said "Your question is linked by one of the biggest misconceptions about the AC. Anti means opposite.", and that is not entirely correct. Modern English/Greek terminology polarized the the word for one who is against. But in fact it is more akin to like unto, but not of. Will look, and sound, possibly even have identical abilities, but of not the same mind/thought. A description more or less.


Mom was a linguist. As well as a English teacher. I tended to be her soundboard, alot. I should also add, she made sure I read the word of G-d, as she use to say it.

So we should be watching for is a individual who has a type of ground swell belief system that is moving the masses to think as he thinks. A person who cannot have any outward blame/sin. None that any would know. Someone who can seem to know what you or a group of people is thinking. A miracle worker of sorts. To be made a Messiah. To many of the masses, a savior they can relate to.


Just my two cents.
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Re: Guesswork on EU presidency is a cornucopia of nonsense

Postby Wickus on Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:31 am

Hi A_Watchman

This is what I got in Strongs regarding the antichrist:

G473
ἀντί
anti
an-tee'
A primary particle; opposite, that is, instead or because of (rarely in addition to): - for, in the room of. Often used in composition to denote contrast, requital, substitution, correspondence, etc.


I think we sometimes give the AC the same characteristics as the false prophet. The FP will be the miracle worker. The FP is the one who will mislead the masses to follow the AC. The FP is the one that will implement the mark. The FP will implement the worship of the image of the beast.

Rev 13:1-18 And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like unto a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the authority of the first beast in his sight. And he maketh the earth and them dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose death-stroke was healed. And he doeth great signs, that he should even make fire to come down out of heaven upon the earth in the sight of men. And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by reason of the signs which it was given him to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast who hath the stroke of the sword and lived. And it was given unto him to give breath to it, even to the image to the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as should not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the bond, that there be given them a mark on their right hand, or upon their forehead; and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, even the name of the beast or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man: and his number is Six hundred and sixty and six.


The AC will be the political leader making big promises, and the FP will be the religious leader doing miracles and implementing false worship.

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