1st half of the 70th week.

[nodoubt]

What do you think will happen in the first half of the 70th week?
Can you help me with a biblical timeline?
Thanks so much.

[studying]

The main things I see in the first half of Daniel's 70th week are a restoration of worship in the temple and persecution of Christians. See my chart of the 70th week with Scripture references at:
http://www.70thweekready.com/timelineB.pdf

[nodoubt]

Thanks so much!!
I will look into it....ver interesting!!
Blessings and Merry Christmas!!

[studying]

Hope you find the info. helpful.
I just noticed that this thread is misplaced. It should have been posted under "Prophecy Study Zone" under subcategory "prophecy Questions/Answers" I am sure the moderator will fix this for you. Just thought I would let you know for the future. I am still learning how the discussion board works and have appreciated those who told me when I made similar mistakes.
Have a Very Merry Christmas!

[pikes]

What do you think will happen in the first half of the 70th week?
Can you help me with a biblical timeline?
Thanks so much.

Nodoubt, I thought I would throw in this Gant chart before the moderators make the switch.

http://www.inchrist.name/cgi-bin/WebObjects/ICNv3.woa/wa/resource?id=qDRs2sl36G

It might compliment Studying's great chart. Its focus is more on observed or planned events in the next seven years. The events identified are from various threads throughout Herb's site.

[Lookfortruth]

Thanks for understanding. Great discussion BTW

[nodoubt]

Thanks again!!

What abt Isiah 17 war, Magog war?

Jesus spoke of various earthquakes, is that for the first half also?

Thanks,

[studying]

Many excellent prophecy experts think the Magog war will be in the first half of the 70th week. Based on my study of the Scriptures I would have to respectfully disagree. I think the Magog prophecy (Ezekiel37-38) best fits the Magog war of Revelation 20:7f. In Revelation 20 this war is clearly placed at the end of the 1000 year reign of Christ, also known as the millenium.
As for Isaiah 17, I think this passage refers to events in the 2nd half of the 70th week. At the midpoint of the week the anti-Christ will break his treaty, bringing devestation on the nation of Israel. At the end of the 70th week, God will destroy the anti-Christ and place Israel as the center of His kingdom.
Regarding earthquakes, I believe there will be an increase in natural disasters during the 1st half of the week(7 years). However, the mother of all earthquakes will happen at the end of the 70th week.

[ChrisJ]

Nodoubt,

Studying wrote

The main things I see in the first half of Daniel's 70th week are a restoration of worship in the temple and persecution of Christians.

I really don't think that the persecution of Christians is gonna be any more or any less than it is now until the 1/2 way mark. Rev. 13:5-7 seems to say that the beast is not given power to make war with the saints and to overcome them until the second 42-month period.

We'll see the restoration of the temple worship, more peace in the Middle East, but not worldwide persecution until later.

thanks,
ChrisJ

[Blessings2U]

Pikes,

In your Gant chart, you show that "Hailstone Phenomenon Observed" will occur in Jan 07? Where do you think this will happen? In Israel?

[Kneeologian]

My beautiful new (to me) Cadillac got POUNDED by golfball hail early this year. So, maybe we're a year deeper in (JUST KIDDING)

[nodoubt]

Thanks.....so the first half is basically like today, only it grows a little worse every year until mid-point...correct?

much blessing,

[nodoubt]

My beautiful new (to me) Cadillac got POUNDED by golfball hail early this year. So, maybe we're a year deeper in (JUST KIDDING)

hahahaha....it will probably happen...ha.....

[Triton57]

What do you think will happen in the first half of the 70th week?
Can you help me with a biblical timeline?

It's easiest for me to see it in graph form...






As you can see by the layout, not much happens during the first half of the 70th week. What I believe we will see is continued EU diplomacy bringing a relative peace possibly after the Gog/Magog invasion. We will see the rebuilding of the temple as well and the reinstitution of the daily sacrifice. (Since it's inevitable that someone gets upset it seems, the Jews haven't accepted Christ's sacrifice so they deem it necessary to continue the daily sacrifice. We who believe know Christ's blood covers our sins, bt we're not the ones rebuilding the temple or starting the daily sacrifice.)

[Triton57]

What do you think will happen in the first half of the 70th week?
Can you help me with a biblical timeline?
Thanks so much.

Nodoubt, I thought I would throw in this Gant chart before the moderators make the switch.

http://www.inchrist.name/cgi-bin/WebObjects/ICNv3.woa/wa/resource?id=qDRs2sl36G

It might compliment Studying's great chart. Its focus is more on observed or planned events in the next seven years. The events identified are from various threads throughout Herb's site.

Nice work, I like the chart!

[Triton57]

Many excellent prophecy experts think the Magog war will be in the first half of the 70th week. Based on my study of the Scriptures I would have to respectfully disagree. I think the Magog prophecy (Ezekiel37-38) best fits the Magog war of Revelation 20:7f. In Revelation 20 this war is clearly placed at the end of the 1000 year reign of Christ, also known as the millenium.

Revelation 20:7-9
And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

It seems to me that this is more than just the Gog/Magog invaders described in Ezekiel 38,39 which are specific peoples. However, the time at the end, it's the nations in the four corners of the earth.

Ezekiel 38:1-6
And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

I understand that Revelation 20 is a little more vague and so one might make the conclusion that they could be speaking of the same timeframe. However, I go over some other points here. In looking at it again, I need to change the language because the invasion doesn't have to take place before the covenant with many.

As for Isaiah 17, I think this passage refers to events in the 2nd half of the 70th week. At the midpoint of the week the anti-Christ will break his treaty, bringing devestation on the nation of Israel. At the end of the 70th week, God will destroy the anti-Christ and place Israel as the center of His kingdom.

One point from Isaiah 17...

Isaiah 17:9
In that day shall his strong cities be as a forsaken bough, and an uppermost branch, which they left because of the children of Israel: and there shall be desolation.

It seems that the destruction of Damascus and possibly other cities may result in a mass exodus from these cities because of Israel. They've already threatened to attack Damascus.

Regarding earthquakes, I believe there will be an increase in natural disasters during the 1st half of the week(7 years). However, the mother of all earthquakes will happen at the end of the 70th week.

I agree. We can expect more weird weather, more earthquakes, etc. It should be interesting these next few years if this is all coming to pass.

[pikes]

Pikes,
In your Gant chart, you show that "Hailstone Phenomenon Observed" will occur in Jan 07? Where do you think this will happen? In Israel?

In Ezekiel 38:21-23 it states that Gog will be hit with torrential rains and hailstones, fire and sulfur. Although it states that it will happen in Israel and will involve a storm, the fact that very large hailstones can now form without a storm sytem is of potential interest.

I just plotted the Hailstone item at the beginning of the timeline. Actually it was observed in Spain first (interesting in itself) in 2000.

Which is why, what scientists are now calling megacryometeors are so puzzling. If megacryometeors really are big hailstones, the updrafts would have to be extremely strong. And you would expect that they would be accompanied by the storm of the century, but instead they have fallen from cloudless skies.
Since the deluge of megacryometeors that rained on Spain in January 2000, the Martinez-Frias team has studied and followed this phenomenon; and they have found that this phenomenon isn't unique to Spain. Argentina, Australia, Austria, Canada, Colombia, The Netherlands, New Zealand, and the United States have reported a megacryometeor event. In all, there have been more than 50 confirmations, and the researchers believe that is only a small fraction of the actual number. The ice balls are getting larger too: 25 and 35 pounders are frequently reported. Recently, Brazil reported a 440-pound behemoth.

This text is from an article from the American Chemical Society.

http://www.chemistry.org/portal/a/c/s/1/feature_tea.html?id=c373e9faf60e15558f6a4fd8fe800100

What is interesting is I always assumed that there would be a bad storm that God would use to pound his enemies into the ground. However, based on this the soldiers could be experiencing a perfectly sunny day as the stones come down.