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How the Purpose Driven Life Obscures the Gospel

Postby Final Trumpet on Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:36 pm

“For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.” (1Corinthians 1:21)

A few months ago a friend phoned to ask if I had ever heard of Rick Warren. “Yes” I replied. “Why are you asking”? He said, “I just got kicked out of a Bible Study for bringing my Bible to it.” That is how the idea for this article came to me.

The Bible study my friend attended was really a Purpose Driven Life study group. The Purpose Driven Life book they were studying referenced Bible passages that sounded off base. He was told that if he was going to attend the study, he would have to leave his Bible at home, because the issues he brought up were disruptive to the group. He chose to quit instead.

My first reaction was that the study group was just poorly led. A few days later my friend gave me the book to read for myself. In the first three pages I saw why bringing a real Bible would disrupt a group studying Rick Warren. First, Warren cited many questionable Bible translations, often without verse reference. Apart from that, one had to locate the reference (information buried in the back of the book), find the reference in a real Bible, go back to the place where Warren used the passage to see if the quoted “translation” had any resemblance to the passage from an acceptable text, and then make a decision about whether the verse in question supported Warren’s claim. Of course, that would disrupt a Bible study. Forty days of purpose would soon be forty months!

Rick Warren’s eleven million copy bestseller has replaced Bible preaching in thousands of pulpits and has replaced the Bible in many thousands of Bible study groups. His website claims he is starting a new Reformation. His claim is that rather than reform what the church teaches like Luther did, Warren is going to reform what the church does. He is well on his way. Warren has turned the Gospel of Jesus Christ into a method. The method is to invite people on a forty day journey to discover the meaning of life.1 Warren’s students are asked to take an oath before a witness (which Jesus forbids) to turn forty days of their life over to Rick Warren and his method. And there is more.

In this article I will show that Warren’s book teaches an approach to the gospel that is not Biblical. His teaching is in keeping with popular, American, evangelical pietism so it is no wonder most evangelicals cannot see what is wrong with it. It comes from a stream of theology that can be traced back to Charles Finney who popularized a methodological “how to” approach to the gospel that puts spiritual revival in the hands of man to work at will. In doing so neither the message nor the method of Jesus Christ and His apostles is followed. To help show the difference between Warren’s method and the gospel message I will cite John MacArthur’s book Hard to Believe which explains the unadulterated gospel better than any book I have recently read.2 There is a chasm between the teachings of Warren and those of MacArthur. They cannot both be right. Let’s begin.

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Postby chatty-kathi on Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:51 am

This is an excellent article. He has other good articles, as well.

I found the following at Kjos Ministries that sums up the easy believism that is being substituted for the gospel by Rick Warren and others.


"Decisionism

An Invitation to Cross-Less Christianity



How to give assurance of "salvation" without conversion


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1. Focus on the "decision," not conversion. Then they'll remember their own "wise" choice, not Christ's work on the cross.

2. Skim over the gospel and push the prayer. The actual gospel is simply too offensive.

3. Please your listeners with positive assurances; don't confuse them with the whole truth. Tell them what they want to hear, not what they need to hear.

4. Emphasize God's goodness, not His justice or holiness. Talk about his love, not His legal requirement that demands sacrifice for sin. Let them think they are headed for heaven no matter what!

5. Describe Jesus as Savior, not Lord of our lives. Promise His blessing but, by all means, ignore His warning about "counting the cost!"

6. Don’t mention sin, guilt, hell or wrath. No need to offend them with the whole dreadful reason why they need the Savior.

7. Whatever you do, never mention Judgment Day. Too distasteful! You could lose both friends and financial supporters.

8. Add some humor or rousing music. Lighten things up. Don't sound too sober or serious.

9. Don’t mention repentance until they’ve repeated a "sinner’s prayer." Then your project won't be aborted by sudden doubts or reservations.

10. After they pray "the prayer," celebrate "their" achievement, not God's grace. Be sure to praise the deceived sinner, not the God they don't know that they don't yet know."

Also, there is an excellent summary of The Message at http://www.crossroad.to/Bible_studies/Message.html.
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Postby chatty-kathi on Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:16 am

Another good article is "40 Days that Start with a Different Gospel". The website can be accessed through http://www.atrueandfaithfulwitness.com/. Under Rick Warren, click on Forty Days: False Gospel. I will quote one paragraph:

"The problem with leading in a prayer for "salvation" without acknowledging sin is that there is no foundation laid of guilt before God, nor a call to Biblical repentance (a change of mind - which results in a change of life). In fact, Warren is issuing this "relationship with Jesus Christ" to those who have both been in church or have never gone to church at all. In other words, an understanding of the holiness of God and sin and repentance, and the need for forgiveness, is not an issue. He simply leads the prayer with "as much as I know how I open my life to you (Christ)." With this done, he then welcomes them into the family of God. The full context of the video tape very clearly indicates that he believes he has presented the "gospel". But he has not mentioned one thing about sin."

Regarding the broad way, which most will take according to scripture, here are two unbelievable quotes from Rick Warren. The first was on his website, I believe May 2006: "At our Easter services in the last three years, more than 5,000 people opened their lives to Christ - because YOU invited them! It's almost guaranteed that if you bring those you care about to a Saddleback Easter service, they will come to know Jesus". The second quote from "Purpose Driven Preaching: An Interview with Rick Warren, Sept.-Oct. 2001, we see why he believes this, contrary to scripture: "It is my deep conviction that anybody can be won to Christ if you discover the felt needs to his or her heart. That key to each person's heart is unique so it is sometimes difficult to discover. It may take some time to identify it. But the most likely place to start is with the person's felt needs. As I pointed out earlier, this was the approach Jesus used". It is a different gospel.
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Re: How the Purpose Driven Life Obscures the Gospel

Postby nickylouse on Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:48 am

Final Trumpet wrote:He was told that if he was going to attend the study, he would have to leave his Bible at home, because the issues he brought up were disruptive to the group. He chose to quit instead.

Warren has turned the Gospel of Jesus Christ into a method.


"Celebrate Recovery" is another Saddleback creation that neither glorifies Christ nor sets people free from habitual sin through the power of the Holy Spirit. Instead it is a method of changing behavior at the expense of bringing God's overwhelming grace to the sinner.

When I attended a CR session, I was told flatly that this is not a Bible study.
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Postby aaron on Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:27 pm

6. Don’t mention sin, guilt, hell or wrath. No need to offend them with the whole dreadful reason why they need the Savior.


Isn't that the truth. I hate to admit it, but I NEVER hear about sin, guilt hell or wrath. I have to read it in the Bible myself. I know Jesus died on the cross to save me from my sins. I know I need to repent and follow Jesus at all costs. I just wish I knew this because the church preached it.

I also attended a Bible study where the Bible wasn't studied. Every once and a while they would say the Bible says... and mis-quote something. I would find some of the references and recite them, but the leader was agitated that I quoted the specific scripture he was referring to. He said that's not what I wanted to say. Well, either speak the Word or don't. Good grief. I hunger for the Word to be preached. Not sure where to find it, but praying for God to lead me to a church that preaches the Word. All of it.

So sick of this PDL movement, it's the worst thing that has ever happened to the church.

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Postby BKF on Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:06 pm

I watched Kay Warren on the 700 Club this morning (tuned in to receive my “Word of Knowledge” :grin: ); anyway, she was promoting a social gospel of good works, helping those with AIDS, noble cause but will do nothing for these people in the life to come.
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Postby Passion on Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:48 pm

chatty-kathi wrote:How to give assurance of "salvation" without conversion


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1. Focus on the "decision," not conversion. Then they'll remember their own "wise" choice, not Christ's work on the cross.

2. Skim over the gospel and push the prayer. The actual gospel is simply too offensive.

3. Please your listeners with positive assurances; don't confuse them with the whole truth. Tell them what they want to hear, not what they need to hear.

4. Emphasize God's goodness, not His justice or holiness. Talk about his love, not His legal requirement that demands sacrifice for sin. Let them think they are headed for heaven no matter what!

5. Describe Jesus as Savior, not Lord of our lives. Promise His blessing but, by all means, ignore His warning about "counting the cost!"

6. Don’t mention sin, guilt, hell or wrath. No need to offend them with the whole dreadful reason why they need the Savior.

7. Whatever you do, never mention Judgment Day. Too distasteful! You could lose both friends and financial supporters.

8. Add some humor or rousing music. Lighten things up. Don't sound too sober or serious.

9. Don’t mention repentance until they’ve repeated a "sinner’s prayer." Then your project won't be aborted by sudden doubts or reservations.

10. After they pray "the prayer," celebrate "their" achievement, not God's grace. Be sure to praise the deceived sinner, not the God they don't know that they don't yet know."

Also, there is an excellent summary of The Message at http://www.crossroad.to/Bible_studies/Message.html.


Sounds like the church I used to go to. When I first started there, they had a big cross at the back of the stage, too. One day it simply disappeared--no explanation :( And those shallow conversions....This happened to a young woman I know who goes there. One day, about a year and half ago, after her friend had told some of us that she had said the "sinners prayer", she grudgingly admitted it--after chastising her friend for "blabbing". That right there made me suspicious, and recently I was told by my daughter (who still goes there :roll: ) that this girl often has doubts. Whether she meant doubts that she really is a Christian, like she was told she was, or doubts about having chosen to "receive" Christ, I don't know. But what really worries me is that my daughter said that whenever this girl voices her doubts in front of their their small group leader, their leader just laughs and tells her "It's too late--you already asked Him into your heart, once saved always saved!" :cry:
"But as for me, I will watch expectantly for the Lord; I will wait for the God of my salvation. My God will hear me. Do not rejoice over me, O my enemy. Though I fall I will rise; Though I dwell in darkness, the Lord is a light for me."

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Postby kids on Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:13 pm

excellent resource of articles! Thank you for sharing it!

I have printed at least 5 articles to read :eek:

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Postby kat on Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:42 am

last weekend a friend talked my family into going to church with them...new covenant christian....I didn't know anything about the place...but was immediately suspicious...the first thing they had this "rock and roll" band up front and the congregation was on their feet just a singing away...what fun....and I immediately wanted to run. Then the pastor started to give his sermon...and let me tell you...I don't know ALL of my bible..but I know it well enough..this man was saying things that were not right....and I was becoming angry...then I read their pamphlet...and it said they are a purpose driven church who are congregation centered. UGH!!!! I don't want to be a people centered person....I want to be CHRIST centered!! My friends asked how I liked it and I was honest and told them I really didn't care for it-that there were some things that weren't bible based and that is worrisome to me-well that offended them. They mentioned that they can't go to a church that is all stuffy and just preaches out of the bible. I said that is exactly what I am looking for. I want bible based TRUTH! I don't want to listen to some pastor say that there is nothing wrong with change and God understands change....MY God is NEVER CHANGING! ALWAYS THE SAME. CONSTANT..UNMOVING GOD!! anyway...I couldn't get outta there fast enough!! I totally understand now what the bible is talking about "wolf in sheeps clothing leading the flock astray!
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Postby billiefan2000 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:18 pm

http://fulfilledprophecy.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=40397


RICK WARREN VIOLATING 2 CORINTHIANS 6:14-18...AGAIN
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Postby smallisland on Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:04 am

They mentioned that they can't go to a church that is all stuffy and just preaches out of the bible.


Show me where there is one, and I'll pay a visit!
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Postby Pretzelogical on Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:39 am

I am so hungry for a "stuffy" Bible-preaching church, I'd schedule my vacation around it! Is it unloving, unbliblical, unworthy of Christ is memebers of their church just got up and left at the first word that contradicts scripture? I am really thinking about it. Seriously. We always sit on the back row in order to greet visitors. Once when we had our grandson with us from out of town, we left with him during the sermon intro that kept going on and on and was non-scriptural. It was so easy when we had an excuse that the three year old needed to go. Should I just do it anyway. Love is not rude. Was is loving and polite when Christ and John the Baptist accused their leaders?
Confused on how to defend the gospel. I know, go to the pastor. Did that already. Would have to be a constant pain to him to keep up. If comes to see how/what I am doing, I would tell him again. But there is no pastoring, no interest with anyone who is perceived a "threat".
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Postby billiefan2000 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:11 am

Why Criticize Saddleback?

In his article, Poster Couple for Global Change, at the Christianity Today Live Blog,

http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2008/06/poster_couple_f_2.html

Tim Morgan writes about Rick Warren's PEACE Coalition and asks the question:



Why are so many Christian leaders critical of Saddleback's strategies?


This blog left the following comment at the CT blog:

Anyone would applaud the fine humanitarian efforts at Saddleback. These efforts resemble similar noble efforts of Roman Catholism and other belief systems.

However, the Biblical foundation at Saddleback is far less than solid. Warren twists and distorts Scripture into a humanistic form. The repackaged product has been used as the delivery vehicle for church growth and now global relief efforts.

The plan may appear successful in both arenas. Pews may be filled, the hungry may be fed. But the true need that the true church is called to meet first and foremost is untouched by Warren's "cosmo-Christianity"...to expose the real spiritual condition of humanity:

spiritual depravity, separation from God and His judgement for that condition. To declare God's salvation plan for that same condition as revealed by the whole of Scipture in it's unadulterated form. To properly instruct, in the pattern set forth by the Scriptures, those who repent that they may learn to walk in the newness of life in the Holy Spirit, and put off the old sin nature.


Thus producing fruits of good works that will cause men to give glory to God...not to give glory to a coalition of well intentioned religious organizations, as Warren has recently expressed in the PEACE Coalition press release. Warren is leading so many to imitate these good works, but never will succeed in duplicating the fruit of the Holy Spirit.

Yes, the very necessary physical,emotional and economic needs of thousands may be met by these Saddleback's strategies,

but if the "first work" that the church is called to do in the Name of God is neglected, what kind of Gospel is really being presented by this kind of church?



Those served by Warren's cosmo-Christianity are at great risk of their greatest need going unmet, by a group of people that represent, at least historically, the only way to meet that greatest need.

http://watcherslamp.blogspot.com/2008/0 ... eback.html
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Pastor Larry DeBruyn on the Abuse of Scripture and on Rick W

Postby billiefan2000 on Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:48 am

http://herescope.blogspot.com/2008/06/who-gets-glory-for-doing-good.html


Is the church supposed to receive a “P.E.A.C.E.” of it?



By Pastor Larry DeBruyn


[Note: We interrupt Jeffrey Whittaker's excellent report on his "encounter" experience with Brian McLaren's "Everything Must Change" tour in order to bring you this very current report.]




On WorldNetDaily.com, a contention has surfaced between columnist Joseph Farah and Rick Warren

[Read HERE and HERE.]

With words Pastor Warren does not deny, Farah quotes him:


“At a wedding the bride is the main character, the center, the start of the show—everyone else is supporting cast, but the glory goes to the bride . . . The PEACE Plan is built on the same principle. The Bride of Christ—of which the church is its local expression around the world—deserves the focus, the credit and the glory for faithfully serving their communities year after year.’”[1] To Warren’s assertion that “the bride deserves the credit,” Farah counters, “Give Glory to God!”[2]

Saying it was his general policy not to respond to his critics—thus providing the impression that he strives to live above them—Warren broke his policy and publicly responded to Farah. In yesterday’s WorldNetDaily posting, he chides Farah, “Give PEACE a chance.”[3] In six categories, Warren cites thirty or so proof texts which supposedly prove his assertion, “God wants His body and bride to receive glory.”

Thus we ask who is right - Warren or Farah? Is God, or the church, to receive the glory? The best way to answer the question is to look at the biblical texts to which Pastor Warren appeals to support his assertion. As we look at the individual texts, I will offer my impression as to whether or not the verses actually support Warren’s statement: “God wants His body and bride to receive glory.” We turn now to Warren’s Bible study which he says proves his premise.

Text Grouping 1

All of the four verses (Warren cites the same verse, Ephesians 3:21, from three different translations—NIV, GW, NLT), state that the glory is God’s. I quote the four texts then provide comment:

Ephesians 3:21 (NIV) “to him [i.e., to God as the nearest antecedent in verse 19] be glory in the church”—the glory is to God;
Ephesians 5:27 (NCV) “Christ died so that he could give the church to himself like a bride in all her beauty”—in contradiction to Warren’s citation, the New Century Version of this verse does not contain the word “glorious”;
Hebrews 2:10 (NCV) “God is the One who made all things, and all things are for his glory. He wanted to have many children share his glory . . .”—God created all things for His glory. Again, Warren misquotes the NCV translation as he replaces the word “sons” (NCV) with “children” (his);
1 Corinthians 15:31 (NIV) “I die every day—I mean that, brothers—just as surely as I glory over you in Christ Jesus our Lord”—the Greek word kauchesis (not doxa) is better translated “boast” (NASB).

At the conclusion of this text grouping, Warren asks Farah, “You certainly agree with these verses, don’t you, Joseph?” There is but one fatal problem in Warren’s challenge: None of these texts, two of which are misquoted, “clearly” support his assertion that, “God wants His body and bride to receive glory.” Glory belongs to God, and to God alone.

Text Grouping 2

In this grouping, Warren cites three basic texts to support his contention that, “Jesus clearly stated that He receives glory through His church.” But in this statement, Warren denies what he affirmed in the previous statement; namely, that Jesus, not the church, is “clearly” the recipient of the glory! Nevertheless, let’s look at the verses:


John 17:10 (NLT) “And all of them, since they are mine, belong to you; and you have given them back to me, so they are my glory!”—Jesus said of His disciples, “they are my glory” ("glory has come to me through them,” NIV, all emphases mine.);
2 Corinthians 3:18 (NIV) “And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit”—again, the glory is the Lord’s;
1 Thessalonians 2:20 (NIV) “Indeed, you are our glory and joy”—I note that Warren’s comment “Paul gloried in the church and told them . . .” is included between the quotation marks giving the impression that the statement is in the Bible. It is not. If glory—better, credit—is ascribed in this verse, it belongs to Paul, not the church. Thus the NLT translates, “For you are our pride and joy.”

Again, Warren’s scriptural citations do not prove his main assertion that “God wants His body and bride to receive glory.”

Text Grouping 3

Pastor Rick Warren cites thirteen verses to support a sub-thesis that, “Christ intends for his church to share in his glory!” Note the tense of Christ’s intent: The church will be glorified when Jesus returns for His Bride. As such, the church’s glory is in the future, not the present. Christ’s Body will be glorified in heaven for eternity. Note also that the glory is shared by individual persons, and not by a corporate Christendom. Observe the tenses of the bolded words in the following verses Warren cites:


1 Peter 5:1 (NLT) “I [Peter], too, will share his glory and his honor when he returns”;
Colossians 3:4 (NCV) “When [Christ] comes again, you will share in his glory”;
Romans 5:2 (NLT) “we confidently and joyfully look forward to sharing God’s glory”;
Romans 8:17 (NIV) “if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may [wish, or ‘will have glory,’ NCV] also share in his glory”;
Romans 8:18 (NLT) “the glory he will give us later”;
Romans 8:19 (NCV) “Everything God made is waiting with excitement for God to show his children’s glory completely”;
Romans 8:21 (NCV) “that everything God made would be set free [future] from ruin to have the freedom and glory that belong to God’s children”;
Romans 8:30 (TEV) “those he called, he put right with himself, and he shared his glory with them”—the context takes us from eternity past (predestined) to eternity future (glorified). Furthermore, the glorification indicated is individual, not corporate (i.e., the church);
Romans 9:23 (NIV) “What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory”—again, the preparation is individual, some unto “wrath,” and some unto glory. Assuming that God’s full wrath upon unbelievers is future, then so too will be the full glory of believers;
Colossians 1:27 (NLT) “For this is the secret: Christ lives in you, and this is your assurance that you will share in his glory”;
Colossians 3:4 (NCV) “Christ is your life, and when he comes again, you will share in his glory”;
2 Thessalonians 2:14 (NIV) “He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ”—the glory belongs to our Lord Jesus Christ and the prospect of our sharing it is future;
1 Peter 5:4 (NLT) “And when the head Shepherd comes, your reward will be a never-ending share in his glory and honor.”

Text Grouping 4

The four texts cited have reference to the love-life of a local church. Further, they do not support Warren’s thesis that, “God wants His body and bride to receive glory.” Again, let’s look at the texts:


Romans 15:7 (NCV) “Christ accepted you, so you should accept each other, which will bring glory to God”—God, not the church, is the object of the glory;
Ephesians 4:29 (NIV) “Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen”—the word “glory” does not appear in the text;
James 3:17-18 (NLT) “But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure. It is also peace loving, gentle at all times, and willing to yield to others. It is full of mercy and good deeds. It shows no partiality and is always sincere. And those who are peacemakers will plant seeds of peace and reap a harvest of goodness”—again, the word "glory" is not mentioned;
Ephesians 4:31-32 (NLT) “Get rid of all bitterness, rage, anger, harsh words, and slander, as well as all types of malicious behavior. Instead, be kind to each other, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, just as God through Christ has forgiven you”—and again, the word "glory" is not even mentioned.

While the texts Warren cites do speak to the issue of practicing Christian graces in the local fellowship, they say nothing about God wanting the church to be glorified now.

Text Grouping 5

Again, all three texts –James 1:20 (TEV), Romans 14:4 (NIV), and Romans 14:12-13 (NIV)—speak of God’s purpose and judgment, but have nothing to say about the church’s glory.

Text Grouping 6


Galatians 5:14-15 (NIV) “The entire law is summed up in a single command: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other”—the word “glory” is not mentioned;
Romans 15:5-6 (NIV) “May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give you a spirit of unity among yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus, so that with one heart and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”—God, not the church, is the object of glory;
John 17:22 (NIV) “I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one . . .”—the “glory” given by the Father to the Son is the future glory of His resurrection and ascension, glory that individual believers share in. Though given to the Son’s disciples, the glory will not be possessed, as far as the purpose of God is concerned, until Jesus returns to take His bride to heaven. At that moment, and too late for observant unbelievers to exercise saving faith in Jesus, the world will see the vital union that existed between the Father and the Son, which union was then extended to God’s people as based upon Jesus’ resurrection and ascension.[4]

Conclusion

It would be well for all of us to remember that the spiritually dead can do good works. To the church of Sardis the living Christ said, “I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God” (Revelation 3:1b-2, KJV)

Nevertheless, good works done by God’s children play a necessary part in our Christian living (James 2:18; Ephesians 2:10). But even when done by true believers according to a particular plan, such good works glorify the Father. As Jesus said, “Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven” (Matthew 5:16, NASB). For doing good works, the glory belongs to God for it is about Him, not us!

But, in the midst of the mass of Pastor Warren’s Bible quoting, not one text proves his statement that, “God wants His body and bride to receive glory.” Contrarily, the Lord spoke to Isaiah, “I am the Lord, that is My name; I will not give My glory to another . . .” (Isaiah 42:8, NASB; See 48:11.).



Soli Deo Gloria!
“To the only wise God be glory forever through Jesus Christ! Amen.”
(Romans 16:27, NIV)


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FOOTNOTES
[1] Joseph Farah, “Give Glory to God!” WorldNetDaily.com, May 30, 2008 (http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65629).
[2] Ibid.
[3] Rick Warren, “Give PEACE a chance,” WorldNetDaily.com, June 2, 2008 (http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=65944)
[4] My thoughts on this passage have been adapted from William MacDonald, The Believer’s Bible Commentary, Art Farstad, Editor (Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1995) in loc. cit.

Pastor Larry DeBruyn is the author of Church on the Rise: Why I am Not a "Purpose-Driven" Pastor.

See also Herescope posts: http://herescope.blogspot.com/2006/12/back-channel-for-peace.html;

http://herescope.blogspot.com/2006/11/where-rick-warrens-disciples-are.html

http://herescope.blogspot.com/2007/12/rethinking-eschatology.html

and especially

http://herescope.blogspot.com/2008/01/seven-spheres-of-influence.html





http://herescope.blogspot.com/2008/06/who-gets-glory-for-doing-good.html
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