Announcing -- Philanthropic Apostles!

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Announcing -- Philanthropic Apostles!

Postby Abiding in His Word on Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:19 am

Announcing -- Philanthropic Apostles!

C. Peter Wagner, leader of the New Apostolic Reformation and Rick Warren's advisor, has done it again. He's concocted another new kind of apostle -- the philanthropic apostle. This new creature is obviously not a Scriptural term. But this role is an essential feature of the new kingdom dominionism/transformation agenda.

What in the world is a philanthropic apostle? C. Peter Wagner refers to them as "Agents of Kingdom Philanthropy" in his latest missive from his Global Harvest Ministries. Their purpose will be for the "distribution of kingdom wealth" when it begins to pour in. In other words, as the dominionism agenda gains momentum around the world, these transformative agents will be in charge of the disbursement of the funds. Wagner explains the rationale:

"We live in extraordinary times. The 21st Century is already shaping up to be a quantum leap from the 20th Century around the globe. We now live in the Second Apostolic Age in which the biblical government of the church has come alive once again. The Holy Spirit has begun speaking to the churches about taking dominion of God's creation as God originally intended us to do. Our 20th Century goal of saving souls and multiplying churches has been expanded to aim for nothing less than transforming our society.

"Along with all of these mega-changes is the impending fulfillment of God's promises through His prophets for the great transfer of wealth. My sense is that we are looking at unbelievable quantities of wealth moving from the control of the kingdom of darkness to the control of the kingdom of God. I know that it may be an exaggeration, but I have both faith and hope that it will be on the order of the wealth in Solomon's kingdom. . . ."

" . . . . I'm directing these thoughts on philanthropy mostly to those to whom God has given positions of leadership, primarily apostles (see 1 Cor, 12:28). I think it is quite obvious that most new kingdom philanthropists will be apostles, both apostles in the nuclear church and apostles in the workplace."

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Postby sparkly on Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:03 am

Ooh...I got scared and nauseous at the same time, reading that! :eek:
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Postby Abiding in His Word on Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:09 am

It is stomach churning.......
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Postby grace2all on Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:42 am

This is just horrible. :cry:
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Postby OBXBob on Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:09 am

Unbelievable...

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Postby Blessedayers on Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:00 pm

Great find Abiding :P
One more I can add to my growing list...they have no fear now.
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Postby Abiding in His Word on Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:37 pm

BD, this has to be the most ridiculous, blasphamous stretch of the gospel for personal gain I've run across. Some of their other teachings may not appeared so blatently false to some unsuspecting.....but this one......if you weren't crying, you want to laugh.
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Postby Blessedayers on Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:53 pm

BD, this has to be the most ridiculous, blasphamous stretch of the gospel for personal gain I've run across. Some of their other teachings may not appeared so blatently false to some unsuspecting.....but this one......if you weren't crying, you want to laugh.


Thats just it sweety....they have been so sucessful....they dont have to sugar coat it any more. The church...its leaders...they are on board with this....they brought their congregations on board.

Who is going to nay say it now?
You...me? According to them...we are the enemy. And they have taught their congregants to see us as the enemy as well. They have nothing to loose in this world....so its full steam ahead toward one world globalism.

If this is the apostacy we are warned of....and I have no reason to doubt it.....then....we are also witnessing the deception warned of.
Anyone who is dissenting up to this point on...has been cast out of the synagogues....we know what comes next in the progression of events...

The call for today truly is...come out from amongst her my people.
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Postby Blessedayers on Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:46 am

'Venture philanthropy' is new buzz in business
Buffett, Gates not the only tycoons reshaping world of charitable giving


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13556127/

I saw this headline....and immediately thought of this thread.

Is this not just soooo convenient?

Business and church leaders all moving in the same direction at the same time :roll:
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Postby Blessedayers on Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:41 pm

A protégé of management thinker Peter Drucker, Warren is also cultivating corporate executives.

He calls himself Rupert Murdoch's pastor, he has entertained Jack Welch at his home, and he will meet Bill Gates at a Time magazine conference on global health, where they are both scheduled to speak.
He also has forged ties with celebrity activists like Bono, who arranged to make him official pastor of the Live 8 concert last summer in Philadelphia. ("The only thing I remember about that concert is Linkin Park and a sweet smell in the air," Warren joked to his congregation.) If a middle-aged Baptist minister can be said to possess that elusive quality called buzz, Rick Warren has it right now.

Several factors explain why. One is the clout of evangelical Christians. They now number some 30 million to 50 million Americans, and their overwhelming support for George W. Bush, a fellow evangelical, helped him win reelection last year.
(Warren sent a letter to 150,000 pastors, in effect urging "those of us who accept the Bible as God's word" to get out the vote for Bush.)


http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/ ... 1/8359189/

TIME Magazine to Convene Leaders to Develop Solutions to Global Health Challenges
October 04, 2005


Speakers Include Bill Gates, Richard Branson, Lee Jong-wook, Ted Turner, Ann Veneman, Paul Farmer, Madeleine Albright, Paul Wolfowitz, Agnes Binagwaho, Rick Warren, Julie Gerberding and Bono

TIME Global Health Summit Supported by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Nov. 1-3, 2005, in New York City


http://www.timewarner.com/corp/newsroom ... 22,00.html
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Postby Abiding in His Word on Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:59 pm

Rick Warren is almost like Solana......he's everywhere! :shock:
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Postby Be still on Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:33 pm

Thats just it sweety....they have been so sucessful....they dont have to sugar coat it any more. The church...its leaders...they are on board with this....they brought their congregations on board.

Who is going to nay say it now?
You...me? According to them...we are the enemy. And they have taught their congregants to see us as the enemy as well. They have nothing to loose in this world....so its full steam ahead toward one world globalism.

If this is the apostacy we are warned of....and I have no reason to doubt it.....then....we are also witnessing the deception warned of.
Anyone who is dissenting up to this point on...has been cast out of the synagogues....we know what comes next in the progression of events...
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Postby Blessedayers on Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:13 am

Foundation Imperialism

DISCERNMENT MINISTRIES - HERESCOPE - By Sarah Leslie - June 28, 2006 -

It seems like an extraordinary coincidence. C. Peter Wagner launched his new "philanthropic apostles" at the same time that Bill Gates, the world's richest billionaire, retired from running the Microsoft Corporation to spend his time doing philanthropy at The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

On the heels of this, Warren Buffet, the world's second richest billionaire, announced that he will give 5/6ths of his shares from his Berkshire Hathaway stock to The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

This isn't some wild-eyed conspiracy theory.

The title of today's post comes from a quote yesterday in Forbes magazine, in an article entitled "Philanthropy With A Business Bent" by Paul Maidment, which explains the changing face of philanthropy:

"[Buffet's] Gates Foundation donation, marked a serious coming of age of entrepreneurial philanthropy. The skills and approaches of business are being applied to the work of doing good. A new breed of philanthropists is seeking to maximize the social impact of their actions, just as they sought to maximize shareholder value in their businesses.

"...The Gates Foundation is already moving beyond the pure medicine dimensions of health into agriculture and micro-financing. In the end, it and other foundations will inevitably find themselves in the business of promoting sound social infrastructure, open markets, the rule of law and transparent and corruption-free administration.

"Such a business-based approach to social and economic change will increasingly bring foundations into conflict with governments and special interests with their own political agendas....

"Nor will all cultures be comfortable with philanthropic foundations that promote Western values of freedom, technological progress and entrepreneurship to solve the world's underlying problems.

"That day is still a ways off, that of foundation imperialism even further."
It may be a myth -- a media reinforced myth -- that these philanthropic foundations will be promoting "Western values." In reality, these foundations are promoting a form of Western imperialism that more closely reflects the values, goals and agendas of the United Nations, especially the UN Millennium Development Goals.

Ground zero for the world's leading philanthropic efforts happens to be the continent of Africa. It is here where Bill Gates, Rick Warren, Ted Turner, Bono, Brad Pitt, the United Nations and an incredible array of multi-national corporations, think tanks, philanthropic groups, agencies, mission groups, churches, etc. have all focused their attention. The main public priority is global health issues, but underneath lurks all sorts of other agendas.

Domionism and the Great Outpouring of Wealth

Rick Warren's connection to all of this is quite significant because of his Christian dominionism -- that which he acquired from the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR, elsewhere documented in Herescope posts). The NAR leaders' "prophetic" predictions about a "great outpouring" of wealth may be connected to these recent philanthropic maneuvers.

The Christian mission agencies, parachurch organizations and international groups who have been promoting NAR-style dominionism for the past two decades have positioned themselves globally to be on the receiving end of this great outpouring of philanthropic wealth.

Last November Rick Warren was invited to a Global Health Summit hosted by TIME magazine and supported by The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. At this summit he hobnobbed with over 400 leaders, including Bill Clinton (Clinton Global Initiative), Bill Gates, Condoleeza Rice, Ted Turner (who gave his fortune to the UN), Madeleine Albright, Bono, Paul Wolfowitz (World Bank), and others.

At this summit it was revealed that the World Bank was looking at "church-health facilities" to see how they could partner. Faith-based organizations took center stage as the participants were told that they "are able to reach those difficult areas that the government cannot reach." Significantly -- and perhaps an indication of future funding -- Rick Warren "noted... that many times churches are the only infrastructure in a remote village that lacks a post office, a hospital, or a school."

Following this summit, Warren traveled to speak to the Anglican Conference in Pittsburgh. At this conference he explained how churches would serve as a distribution network:
He envisioned the church -- and here he includes non-Christian religious communities -- as a global distribution network that could deliver solutions in villages with no school, no post office, no clinic and no phone service.

An October 18, 2005 article in Fortune magazine entitled "Power Pastor" confirmed this very point, also promising an "army of volunteers":
PEACE stands for Partner with or Plant churches, Equip servant leaders, Assist the poor, Care for the sick, and Educate the next generation. "We don't know how to do this," he told the pastors in Kigali, "but together we can figure it out. I'm going to get the best minds I can to help me." About all he knows for sure is that the project will be driven by local pastors who will get help from churches in the developed world. "The church has a distribution point in every community," he says, "and we have a massive army of volunteers that neither business nor government has."

The Truth:
Is the World using the Church? Or is the Church using the World?

Compromise with the spirit of the world and the spirit of the times will not produce a true love of one's neighbor. And charitable acts devoid of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is not true compassion.

"No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." (Luke 16:13)
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Postby Blessedayers on Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:09 pm

The Aspen Institute

Philanthropy Newsletter

The Fund also publishes an electronic newsletter, the Aspen Philanthropy Letter (APL), which reports on new ideas and other developments that may affect the field of philanthropy in the years to come. Philanthropy Newsletter Archives are also available.

Donate online to the Aspen Philanthropy Letter through a donation to the Nonprofit Sector and Philanthropy Program (NSPP). NSPP is a policy program of The Aspen Institute, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. As such, your contribution to NSPP is fully tax deductible.


http://www.aspeninstitute.org/site/c.hu ... letter.htm

Richard DeVos -Co- Founder of the Amway Corporation in 1959, he has been on the CNP Executive Committee (1984-85); CNP Senior Executive Committee & Past President (1986-88 &1990-93), and Board of Governors for 1996 and 1998.

He is on the Board of Directors of Robert Schuller Ministries, past Co-chairman of Gerald R. Ford Foundation, served as Co-chairman of the Mutual Broadcasting Corporation. He is also helped fund Council of Trustees, Freedom Foundation and is a:

Fellow, World Fellowship for the Duke of Edinburgh's Award.
Member, Newcomen Society.
Past Board Director, Spectrum Health.
Past Finance Chairman, Republican National Committee.
United Nations Environment Programme Achievement Award, recipient on behalf of Amway - 1989.

In an undated Amway brochure titled 3 Decades of Caring: AMWAY, Amway announced that it had launched "a new, five year corporate sponsorship: the Aspen Global Change Institute-which is John Denver's initiative.

Amway's partners in the project included the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), the United Nations Environment Programme, and the Windstar (John Denver) Foundation."



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Postby Blessedayers on Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:37 am

Aspen Revisited -- Philanthropy & Ideas

Neoevangelical leaders are fraternizing in the highest echelons of intellectual and global political societies these days. Last year this Aspen Ideas Festival became known among evangelicals because Saddleback pastor Rick Warren was invited to attend.

Bob Buford of the Leadership Network, who has been closely connected with both Peter Drucker (the management guru) and Rick Warren, wrote of his recent trip to Aspen, Colorado to hobnob with the global elites. Keep in mind as you read Buford's description, that this is the man who has trained an entire generation of Christian pastors and leaders in the Drucker 3-legged stool of Society model:

"As some of you know, Linda and I set aside six weeks each year in Aspen.…

"Under the direction of Walter Isaacson, The Aspen Institute is doing a remarkable job of being bipartisan and essentially creating a civil, new center in American political thought. The Aspen Ideas Festival is the most remarkable buffet of current big thinkers. Almost 200 speakers are offered across the period of a week, with sessions running from 7:30 a.m. to 10:30 p.m. – more than anyone could conceivably consume.

Just on the luminary side, one could hear two U.S. Supreme Court justices (Sandra Day O’Connor and Stephen Breyer), the last two and the current secretaries of state ( Colin Powell , Madeleine Albright, and Condoleezza Rice ).

In economics, there was Alan Greenspan and Larry Summers, the just deposed president of Harvard, who had been Bill Clinton’s secretary of the treasury, along with a batch of very savvy investment bankers and money people. Walter Isaacson is working hard to spice this mix with current evangelical Christian religious superstars Rick Warren last year and T.D. Jakes and Ted Haggard, head of the National Association of Evangelicals, this year." [emphasis added]

Bob Buford mentions in his letter that he also attended another seminar, the Aspen Institute Seminar on International Philanthropy:
"A couple of days after the Ideas Festival, I attended an Aspen Institute Seminar on International Philanthropy. It was small and cozy by comparison with the massive Ideas Festival and the philanthropists came from Columbia, Costa Rica, London, and around the United States. One of my favorite, but seldom seen friends, the peripatetic Mort Meyerson, was one of a small group of twenty. He’s a prophet and genuine wise man. So I got to look at things from his perspective as well as my own. The first evening gathering featured an intimate reception and Q&A with Bill Gates, Sr. Of all the speakers I heard, he somehow was the most impressive…." [emphasis added]

To read more about these Aspen events see the following urls:

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Rev 17:1
And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:


Rev 17:2
With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
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Postby Blessedayers on Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:12 am

:bump:

Need thread for reference :grin:
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Postby Abiding in His Word on Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:16 pm

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