Flavor Enhancers

[rabka4]

It seems as a human race we have gone to a new low, after reading this I dont see how this could not be the end of days.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/03/05/obam ... -business/

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/mo ... ocent-huma

I am devasted in learning this news, I cannot believe it....how do they get away with these kind of things ?

[Tevye]

Extremely...

Oklahoma state Sen. Ralph Shortey has introduced a bill to the Oklahoma Legislature that has caused quite a stir. S.B. 1418 says it would ban any product for human “consumption” that contains aborted human fetal tissue or where the research or development of any of the ingredients required the use of aborted fetal tissue. Now, currently, there are no aborted fetuses in any food products. But some pundits interpret “consumption” in this bill to mean not just food products, but any product humans “consume,” like drugs, vaccines, treatments or even beauty products.


In the national response to S.B. 1418, the jokes about Soylent Green abound, and those from all political persuasions mocked Shortey as an idiot with nothing better to do than invent problems and waste taxpayer money.

Before I even read the article I had thought about the warning in Soylent Green Clip 5 - link

Then I thought about this message from the Apostle Peter:

"...many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment; if he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;...and to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment...and especially those who indulge in the lust of defiling passion and despise authority.Bold and willful, they do not tremble as they blaspheme the glorious ones, whereas angels, though greater in might and power, do not pronounce a blasphemous judgment against them before the Lord. But these, like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed, blaspheming about matters of which they are ignorant, will also be destroyed in their destruction, suffering wrong as the wage for their wrongdoing." - 2 Peter chapter 2

Christ will soon appear, and all these things, will have an end...
as will all good things in Christ, find their beginings, on that day.

[mightymac]

what is Soylent Green? (can't go to youtube at work.) in fact, it has been a question for a couple weeks as my husband bought a small item on ebay from some guy in the UK and in his feedback he used the term Soylent Green. neither of us have a clue what that means.

[Ready1]

what is Soylent Green?

You are showing your age...or lack thereof . Soylent Green was a movie in the 70's in which dead people were recycled into food. Each day had a different color of waffer and an investigator finds out that "Soylent Green is people".

(Hows that for wrecking a movie?)

[Jericho]

(Hows that for wrecking a movie?)

And wrecking the appetite.

[clang]

I read about this a couple of months ago after I heard Steve Quayle talking about it. I was so shocked and disgusted that I just couldn't believe it but it appears that they are really doing this. I can see this causing a plague of Biblical proportions
like the world has never seen, all at our own hands. They say this hasn't made it's way into the food supply but who can trust any company who uses aborted fetuses in their testing to tell us the truth.

[GodsStudent]

[Tevye]

what is Soylent Green? (can't go to youtube at work.) in fact, it has been a question for a couple weeks as my husband bought a small item on ebay from some guy in the UK and in his feedback he used the term Soylent Green. neither of us have a clue what that means.

I remember seeing it when I was young, as a re-run on TV.
Kind of an early trigger for my interest in prophecy I suppose.
I haven't seen it completely in quite a while
but I believe it goes something like...
Charlton Heston is a future police officer who's dad is dying
he goes to visit him at a fancy hospice with a huge projection screen
where those who are dying get to view how the world was before
it was dying, i.e. the outdoors in all it's beauty
which now is gone
the animals, trees, fields of flowers and so on...
When his dad dies, C.H. wants to know where they are taking him
and so he follows them to a huge processing plant/factory
where he discovers that they turn dead people into green crackers.
The movie also insinuates that they use live people for the same purpose
as seen in a scene from the movie where in the large city, (future NY I think)
they use bulldozers to scoop up homeless people who overpopulate the streets.
It is very, very sad, that humanity would sink to such depths as this suggests it will
but not entirely impossible for reality, if the world continues on this destructive path.

Found this part...Soylent Green Euthanasia Scene/Ending - videolink

[AndCanItBe]

My mind went to Israel eating her children.

Ezekial 5

Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, ‘Because you have more turmoil than the nations which surround you and have not walked in My statutes, nor observed My ordinances, nor observed the ordinances of the nations which surround you,’ 8 therefore, thus says the Lord GOD, ‘Behold, I, even I, am against you, and I will execute judgments among you in the sight of the nations. 9 And because of all your abominations, I will do among you what I have not done, and the like of which I will never do again. 10 Therefore, fathers will eat their sons among you, and sons will eat their fathers; for I will execute judgments on you and scatter all your remnant to every wind. 11 So as I live,’ declares the Lord GOD, ‘surely, because you have defiled My sanctuary with all your detestable idols and with all your abominations, therefore I will also withdraw, and My eye will have no pity and I will not spare. 12 One third of you will die by plague or be consumed by famine among you, one third will fall by the sword around you, and one third I will scatter to every wind, and I will unsheathe a sword behind them.

A punishment so heinous God said He would never do it again. What does it say about this nation that we're doing it voluntarily to feed our lust for pleasure? Scares me to my bones. Thank God we have hope in Christ.

[mightymac]

Oh!

wow, would not have guessed that. Thanks for the clarification. Of course now I'm really creeped-out by that guys feedback. Must be that British humor....

[noble1]

Very disturbing!

[Tevye]

Oh!

wow, would not have guessed that. Thanks for the clarification. Of course now I'm really creeped-out by that guys feedback. Must be that British humor....

You're welcome.
I imagine the ultimate end of this issue
would be found in H.G. Wells' 'The Time Machine' future.
Yet, I don't think that humanity would wait 800,000 years for it.
Just the thought that they are experimenting with what they are
is so horrible that I imagine the Lord is standing on the edge
of the throne waiting to execute what is yet to come.
People can be so depraved.

"And if the truth is so horrible, it will haunt your dreams for all time?"
For those who are never to be found in the Lamb's book of life, yes...
Not that we are without sin, yet this seems to go way, way beyond...
into the very depths of human depravity. This is the ultimate result
of evolution's influence upon humanity, and is the antithesis of creation.
What kind of person would even dream up such an atrocity?

[noble1]

What kind of person would even dream up such an atrocity?

Not a person could, without the demonic influence of Lucifer himself!

[rabka4]

I have to admit, I'm not the healthiest eater...however with this news coming to light its whole foods for me and my family from now on. It truly makes me wonder if people are so oblivious to what this could do to a person physically ??? God did not design us to EAT each other. I am still so appalled I am having a hard time with the revelation of this depravity of our humanity. The more research I do the sadder and sicker I am.

[GodsStudent]

I read above they aren't using this in any food we buy or consume right now. I have two questions if anyone knows:
First, are any of these things in our food right now?
Second, are these awful ingredients in anything we might use right now?

This is just awful.

I was talking to a man who works in the meat dept. at Walmart. He told me the make up companies come pick up their spoiled meats that don't sell. He said they put that into cosmetics. I can't imagine the layers of things i would be shocked and offended by in regards to our world of convenience we live in. Who knows what's in all these pretty little packages we throw into our buggy, bring home, unwrap, and consume in one way or another!

[gracebyfaith]

Mad cow disease anyone?

[Ready1]

Soylent Green is People

[Exit40]

Just when you thought these earthly horrors couldn't get any worse....

article....

Would you want your child to eat "pink slime"?

“Pink slime” is scraps and bits of meat and muscle recovered from slaughterhouse floors and treated with a pink chemical to kill dangerous pathogens.

Pink Slime


God Bless

David

[rabka4]

No I dont want anybody to eat pink slime, however if I had to choose I would eat slime over any possibility of eating an aborted child. Although it is not in the food yet for consumption (as far as we know) the fact that they are using it to test the sweetness etc for our consumption is bad enough, ....who knows how long before that happens, and yet many more horrors being committed with these innocents...........

There is also Neocutis, a San Francisco company, which is selling cosmetic and dermatological products that have come from aborted fetal tissue. Neocutis openly admits that its PSP (Processed Skin Cell Proteins) products are derived from the cells of an electively aborted fetus. These PSP products are being marketed to treat “around-the-eye wrinkles and puffiness, to reduce fine lines and wrinkles, and provide long-lasting hydration for luminous skin.”

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/site/article/ ... z1owYaorfE

http://www.ncregister.com/site/article/ ... z1nLObBqLv

[rabka4]

Please take some time to write to these companies and let them know how you feel about this.

http://www.cogforlife.org/boycottflyer.pdf

It contains all the email addresses...lets take a stand together.

[Spreading Salt]

I'm arriving a little late to this discussion and now I can't finish my coffee.

Dearest Yeshua,

May Your people rise to this challenge and send these companies a loud rebuke. Amen

[rabka4]

In agreement Spreading Salt...Please hear our cries Lord and rise up many to protest this atrocity.

[mightymac]

Does anyone remember the movie, "Brazil" (I think that was the name, it had two different endings, one happy, one sad, and Robert DeNiro was in it but not as the main character.) The lady who always played a somewhat sex-crazed older woman in nearly every show I've ever seen her, was the mother in it, and she was obsessed with looking young. All these people obsessed with this new treatment went to a funeral (apparently they weren't putting two and two together that the treatment kills you) and someone knocked over the casket. The "body" SPILLED out....

[Exit40]

Any one see the Pepsi Next commercial ? In it a young couple and baby are there when poppa brings home a couple cases of Next. Wifey gets all excited and takes pictures of it, meanwhile the baby in the background is doing the most acrobatics extraordinaire unnoticed. Message is: soda is more exciting than extraordinarily gifted child. Along the lines of this flavor enhancing line I believe this was done with purpose. And Next is the product that used the flavor enhancers. I don't drink many sodas but I think I will try this one to see if I then feel like murdering my grand children.. Not...

God Bless

David

[AndCanItBe]

PepsiCo Says It Will Halt Use of Aborted Fetal Cells in Flavor Research

A pro-life leader has won a victory in her efforts to convince soft-drink manufacturer PepsiCo to stop the use of aborted fetal cells in its research for enhancing the flavors of its products. Debi Vinnedge, executive director of Children of God for Life (COGFL), announced that in late April she had received a letter from Paul Boykas, PepsiCo’s vice president for Global Public Policy, confirming that the company will not allow the use of HEK-293 — a cell line derived from human embryonic kidney — in its partnership with Senomyx, the company with which it had inked a four-year, $30 million contract for flavor research.


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I'm certainly glad that Pepsi has said they will stop doing this, but I just can't bring myself to tell them "thank you" or ever buy another Pepsi product again as Ms Vinnedge suggests at the end of the article. As I see it, they resisted this for a year, they're only protecting their bottom line, not having a change of heart. They're still doing business with a research firm that researches in this way. I don't think I can ever believe anything Pepsi says again, nor trust any of their products. Am I over-reacting? Too cynical? It just seems easy for them to say whatever they want.

[burien1]

I'm just as cynical. I'll drink water before I ever drink Pepsi again. Although I'm glad they've changed their stance, it took too long for them to do so.

[Spreading Salt]

I did get back email responses from these companies and they each stated they do not use these flavor enhancers any longer. Empty words I'm sure. Just pure yuck through and through in this broken world. SS

[good4u1]

After reading this thread...I am thankful that for the last two years I have mainly been eating plant based foods...with the exception of lean protein. The more earth based your caloric intake is the healthier you become...plus exercise, of course!
And as burien1 says...water.

[clang]

PepsiCo Says It Will Halt Use of Aborted Fetal Cells in Flavor Research

A pro-life leader has won a victory in her efforts to convince soft-drink manufacturer PepsiCo to stop the use of aborted fetal cells in its research for enhancing the flavors of its products. Debi Vinnedge, executive director of Children of God for Life (COGFL), announced that in late April she had received a letter from Paul Boykas, PepsiCo’s vice president for Global Public Policy, confirming that the company will not allow the use of HEK-293 — a cell line derived from human embryonic kidney — in its partnership with Senomyx, the company with which it had inked a four-year, $30 million contract for flavor research.


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I'm certainly glad that Pepsi has said they will stop doing this, but I just can't bring myself to tell them "thank you" or ever buy another Pepsi product again as Ms Vinnedge suggests at the end of the article. As I see it, they resisted this for a year, they're only protecting their bottom line, not having a change of heart. They're still doing business with a research firm that researches in this way. I don't think I can ever believe anything Pepsi says again, nor trust any of their products. Am I over-reacting? Too cynical? It just seems easy for them to say whatever they want.

I don't think you are over reacting at all my friend. I don't drink very much soda but I do enjoy it now and then. When I first heard Quayle talking about this I knew I had drank my last Pepsi product. I too am glad they reversed their policy but any company that would have approved of it in the first place cannot be trusted ever again.

[Exit40]

O, I don't know if I could go that far. They have recanted after all, and who knows what the other guys are doing in secret. Besides, it's not what goes into our mouths that defile us, it's what comes out.

God Bless

David

[Exit40]

Just when you thought it was safe to go to the grocery store.....

Link

God Bless

David

[clang]

O, I don't know if I could go that far. They have recanted after all, and who knows what the other guys are doing in secret. Besides, it's not what goes into our mouths that defile us, it's what comes out.

God Bless

David

I can agree with you on part of this while I disagree with your other comment David. Who knows what the other guys are doing in secret I agree with completely and if I find out any of the other companies are doing the same, well I'll stop using their products as well. Your other statement I will respectfully disagree with. We are not talking Old Testament law here where shell fish or pork products were considered unclean. In my mind, this is a form of canibalism which should never be tolerated and may likely be a cause for plagues of Biblical proportions. Other than that, we're all good bud.

[Exit40]

Hi Carl. My position may be partially mistaken. I am under the impression they used the tissue for testing, not placing it in the cola. If they do put it in, I am with you all the way on that.

Mat 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

Jesus was speaking here, right after having a go at some scribes and pharisees, in relation to their hypocrisy.

God bless You Bro

David

[clang]

Hi Carl. My position may be partially mistaken. I am under the impression they used the tissue for testing, not placing it in the cola. If they do put it in, I am with you all the way on that.

Mat 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

Jesus was speaking here, right after having a go at some scribes and pharisees, in relation to their hypocrisy.

God bless You Bro

David

Actually, you are correct David. They claim that it is only used in the testing process which is bad enough. My thoughts are that anyone who would use it in the testing process is sick enough to go beyond that and I just don't trust anything they have to say. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that the root of the word cannibal comes from the words Cannan
and Baal. As we get closer to our King's return and evil gets worse, I won't be surprised to see this wicked practice become more prevalent. We are already hearing stories particularly in Asian countries doing this kind of thing and it happening here is probably just a matter of time. Of course, as you know I am a subscriber to the whole Nephilim theory which I believe will play a part in this.

[christian_m0mmy]

I read above they aren't using this in any food we buy or consume right now. I have two questions if anyone knows:
First, are any of these things in our food right now?
Second, are these awful ingredients in anything we might use right now?

This is just awful.

I was talking to a man who works in the meat dept. at Walmart. He told me the make up companies come pick up their spoiled meats that don't sell. He said they put that into cosmetics. I can't imagine the layers of things i would be shocked and offended by in regards to our world of convenience we live in. Who knows what's in all these pretty little packages we throw into our buggy, bring home, unwrap, and consume in one way or another!

It may be just rumor but I've heard they use these cells in immunizations and the like...

[daffodyllady]

... Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that the root of the word cannibal comes from the words Cannan
and Baal. ...

That was too intriguing... just had to go look it up.

What I found was this:

CANNIBAL, one who eats human-flesh. (Span.,—W. Indian.) A corrupt form; it should rather be caribal. 'The Caribes I learned to be men-eaters or canibals, and great enemies to the islanders of Trinidad;' Hackluyt, Voyages, vol. iii. p. 576 (R.); a passage imitated in Robinson Crusoe, ed. J. W. Clark, 1866, p. 126. See Shak. Oth. i. 3. 143.
—Span. canibal, a cannibal, savage; a corruption of Caribal, a Carib, the form used by Columbus; see Trench, Study of Words.
B. This word being ill understood, the spelling was changed to canibal to give a sort of sense, from the notion that the cannibals had appetites like a dog; cf. Span. canino, canine, voracious, greedy. As the word canibal was unmeaning in English, a second n was introduced to make the first vowel short, either owing to accent, or from some notion that it ought to be shortened...

Much more at
http://www.20kweb.com/etymology_diction ... nnibal.htm