Greece's 'Fuhrer'

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Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby Tevye on Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:00 pm

The Fourth Reich?
Rachel Hirshfeld wrote:Greece's 'Fuhrer' Wants Istanbul Back

The leader of Greece's neo-Nazi Golden Dawn Party
said that Istanbul could be restored to Greek control.

The leader of Greece's neo-Nazi Golden Dawn Party,
Nikos Mihaloliakos, has said during an interview...
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"Jewish people founded a state on their ancient land in 1948 after centuries had passed,"
Mihaloliakos answered."I am not saying that we have to fight with Turks by weapons.
However, we should not forget that Hellenism existed in Anatolia, Pontus and Thrace for centuries."

"Our hearts are with the Queen City [Istanbul]," he said.

Mihaloliakos is nicknamed "Führer," referring to Adolph Hitler,
and said that the nickname does not bother him.
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Intriguing.
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The-Fourth-Reich... ((((readerlink))))
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby Sword of Geddon on Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:44 pm

A Greek Antichrist...is it possible? :dunno:
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby T-Minus? on Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:03 pm

Considering that the Greeks followed the Persians in Daniels timeline and that their language was predominate in Jesus' time, they should be considered. They were also part of the Roman empire. Their architecture, laws, and legends were somewhat modified and adopted by the Romans. They are also a friend of Israel. We still see through a glass darkly. I'll be glad when it clears up some.Till then....who knows but God. Maranatha!!
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby drdos on Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:34 am

Sword of Geddon wrote:A Greek Antichrist...is it possible? :dunno:
Ah not this dude. He wears his true colors right on his sleeve.

Mihaloliakos is nicknamed "Führer," referring to Adolph Hitler, and said that the nickname does not bother him.

He has denied the existence of claimed that Nazi concentration camps did not use ovens and gas chambers to exterminate Jews during the Holocaust.

"There were no ovens — it's a lie. I believe it's a lie. There were no gas chambers either," he said.
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby Jericho on Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:54 pm

I've never understood why antisemites try to deny the holocaust, while usually trying to start a new one.
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby drdos on Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:47 pm

Jericho wrote:I've never understood why antisemites try to deny the holocaust, while usually trying to start a new one.
True True....
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby Small-Time on Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:12 pm

It is interesting that Greek mythology sounds alot like the sons of god coming unto the daughters of man.Men of old. men of renown.
Could be that as it was in the days of Noah Greek mythology may resurface.
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby Sword of Geddon on Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:48 pm

Yes, many Greek myths involve the gods procreating with mankind, having half-god offspring. Orginally the meaning of the Genesis "Sons of God" passage was clearly understood to mean that rogue and fallen angels had children somehow with mortal human women, producing the nephilim, or giants.

The early church(first few hundred years) also had access to the uncorrupted, orginal book of Enoch as well, which was canon for hundreds of years until the 5th century church destroyed all copies except for those in Ethiopia.

This orginal understanding of "the days of noah" means:

-1. Someone will attempt at uniting mankind(Noah lived during the time of Babel)
-2. There will be tampering with the genetic code in ways God has forbidden(merging beasts with man for example). Look up the "transhuman" movement, or stories of people moving machines with only their mind.
-3. Fallen angels and demons will once again walk among mankind in plain sight. This will likely be part of a great deception.
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby Tevye on Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:23 pm

Sword of Geddon wrote:A Greek Antichrist...is it possible?

Good question!
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby brandon on Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:21 am

Sword of Geddon wrote:Yes, many Greek myths involve the gods procreating with mankind, having half-god offspring. Orginally the meaning of the Genesis "Sons of God" passage was clearly understood to mean that rogue and fallen angels had children somehow with mortal human women, producing the nephilim, or giants.

The early church(first few hundred years) also had access to the uncorrupted, orginal book of Enoch as well, which was canon for hundreds of years until the 5th century church destroyed all copies except for those in Ethiopia.

This orginal understanding of "the days of noah" means:

-1. Someone will attempt at uniting mankind(Noah lived during the time of Babel)
-2. There will be tampering with the genetic code in ways God has forbidden(merging beasts with man for example). Look up the "transhuman" movement, or stories of people moving machines with only their mind.
-3. Fallen angels and demons will once again walk among mankind in plain sight. This will likely be part of a great deception.


Having read a sizable chunk of what we have today of this book, it's worth rejecting right out of hand. I personally believe it was written by a Jewish mystic in the four hundred years of prophetic darkness between Zechariah and John the Baptist. The concepts are clearly heavily influenced by Daniel's visions and with a very messianic focus. However, it's clear that it was not scripture.
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby Jericho on Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:19 am

brandon wrote:
Sword of Geddon wrote:Yes, many Greek myths involve the gods procreating with mankind, having half-god offspring. Orginally the meaning of the Genesis "Sons of God" passage was clearly understood to mean that rogue and fallen angels had children somehow with mortal human women, producing the nephilim, or giants.

The early church(first few hundred years) also had access to the uncorrupted, orginal book of Enoch as well, which was canon for hundreds of years until the 5th century church destroyed all copies except for those in Ethiopia.

This orginal understanding of "the days of noah" means:

-1. Someone will attempt at uniting mankind(Noah lived during the time of Babel)
-2. There will be tampering with the genetic code in ways God has forbidden(merging beasts with man for example). Look up the "transhuman" movement, or stories of people moving machines with only their mind.
-3. Fallen angels and demons will once again walk among mankind in plain sight. This will likely be part of a great deception.


Having read a sizable chunk of what we have today of this book, it's worth rejecting right out of hand. I personally believe it was written by a Jewish mystic in the four hundred years of prophetic darkness between Zechariah and John the Baptist. The concepts are clearly heavily influenced by Daniel's visions and with a very messianic focus. However, it's clear that it was not scripture.


No its not scripture or divinely inspired, I would call it extra-biblical. Jude and Peter thought it creditable enough to quote from it. Assuming it is the same Book of Enoch we have access to today. Is it possible parts could have been corrupted since then? Possibly, I don't know. My only interest is the part concerning the fallen angels, which i find most interesting. Especially when compared with Greek mythology.
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby clang on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:47 am

Jericho wrote:
brandon wrote:
Sword of Geddon wrote:Yes, many Greek myths involve the gods procreating with mankind, having half-god offspring. Orginally the meaning of the Genesis "Sons of God" passage was clearly understood to mean that rogue and fallen angels had children somehow with mortal human women, producing the nephilim, or giants.

The early church(first few hundred years) also had access to the uncorrupted, orginal book of Enoch as well, which was canon for hundreds of years until the 5th century church destroyed all copies except for those in Ethiopia.

This orginal understanding of "the days of noah" means:

-1. Someone will attempt at uniting mankind(Noah lived during the time of Babel)
-2. There will be tampering with the genetic code in ways God has forbidden(merging beasts with man for example). Look up the "transhuman" movement, or stories of people moving machines with only their mind.
-3. Fallen angels and demons will once again walk among mankind in plain sight. This will likely be part of a great deception.


Having read a sizable chunk of what we have today of this book, it's worth rejecting right out of hand. I personally believe it was written by a Jewish mystic in the four hundred years of prophetic darkness between Zechariah and John the Baptist. The concepts are clearly heavily influenced by Daniel's visions and with a very messianic focus. However, it's clear that it was not scripture.


No its not scripture or divinely inspired, I would call it extra-biblical. Jude and Peter thought it creditable enough to quote from it. Assuming it is the same Book of Enoch we have access to today. Is it possible parts could have been corrupted since nice then? I don't know. Ive only concerned myself with the part about the fallen angels (as does Jude and 2 Peter), which is the part i find most interesting. Especially when compared against Greek mythology.

I agree. The angel theory makes more and more sense every day.
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby T-Minus? on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:54 pm

The Angel view was predominant until Augustine decided everything should be allegorized, After that the Sethite view was advanced where the "Sons of God" were the godly decendants of Seth. I find that rediculous. If they were so godly,why does the next verse cite their ungodliness and pronounce their hearts as inclined to evil continually? And where did the nephillim (gigas,earthborn,fallen,giants) come from? No,the Sons of God were angels who left their first estate and abandoned their habitation (angel body,house) to take wives and also to sin with animals (minotaurs,hydra,other legends). We are producing mixed kinds today in labratories (pigs with human blood,goats with spider genes). The whole purpose of some of the silly things in the law such as prohibiting the mixing of seed crops and mixing different kinds of clothing fabrics was to teach the wider lesson of not mixing kinds. It's one of Gods' pet peeves! Maranatrha!!
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby OneDay on Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:56 pm

Amen and amen T-Minus!
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Re: Greece's 'Fuhrer'

Postby Sword of Geddon on Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:17 am

:a3: T-Minus.

Its good to see more believers embracing what the early church knew to be the truth.
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